Employer want me to attend meeting outside hours

FBaby

Of course, I've been working here 4.5 years but I'm suddenly going to be sacked for not going to a Sunday evening meeting on my day off. Hell it isn't even in my contract about meetings.

I didn't say you would be sacked. I agree, I don't think you will be, but I think you will find that you might not be treated with the same flexibility as others. You need to leave 10 minutes early one day to go to an appointment, you'll get a 'No you can't, not in your contract'. You want to take time off a particular week to go away with friends 'No, I'm not authorising that week, your colleague -who attended without moaning - has asked for this week off and I have already said yes to them'... that kind of thing that will make it stressful to work there, but which they will also be totally in their rights to do.

DandelionPatrol

Deleted_User wrote: »

I must say that I have not deleted any of my posts.

It was one of mine. The mods deleted one which said 'managers with small wellies'.

Stevie_Palimo

silverwhistle wrote: »

Really? Then I suggest you are a bad manager and a bully. You really should be aware that for some of your staff it _would_ be an issue due to transport, cost and other commitments. You will also find that if you deal with higher level staff with more in demand skills they will not be impressed with the timing of such meetings, the pointlessness of some such meetings and general management demeanour. Too much of such behaviour will result in your recruitment and retention costs soaring.

The fact that you think this is appropriate for NMW staff (where transport and cost issues are often magnified) suggests that you are a bully, and that is not the way to get productive and co-operative staff with any sense of self-respect.

You got me I am a bully and the guys that work for me are chained in a cellar for 12 hours a day and then let out to work a shift thereafter, Back in the normal life most of us reside in a lot of employers may ask for things that could run into additional time and are they all bullies as you have labelled it, No thought not so your stupid theory here is out of the window. Why do certain posters who have the different opinion from others decide to look at the belittle route on here or attempting of as I do not get intimidated by some peoples stone age thoughts and ideas.

andygb

surreysaver wrote: »

If the meeting was important, it would have been held at a sensible and appropriate time.

This:beer:

ANY meeting relating to work SHOULD be in work time, no ifs, no buts.

[Deleted User]

FBaby wrote: »

I didn't say you would be sacked. I agree, I don't think you will be, but I think you will find that you might not be treated with the same flexibility as others. You need to leave 10 minutes early one day to go to an appointment, you'll get a 'No you can't, not in your contract'. You want to take time off a particular week to go away with friends 'No, I'm not authorising that week, your colleague -who attended without moaning - has asked for this week off and I have already said yes to them'... that kind of thing that will make it stressful to work there, but which they will also be totally in their rights to do.

Doesn't work like that here. Holidays have to have 4-6 weeks notice and HR deal with the requests and if not too many people are off, then you will get it authorised.

Also I am not one of these needy people who go booking dentists, doctors, opticians, chiropodists, suit fittings or whatever you fancy during working hours. Always after work or on my days off.

surreysaver

WestonDave wrote: »

I'd personally politely explain to him that the offered hourly pay doesn't cover the expense of travelling

Personally, as a minimum, as it is outside contracted hours and what you would normally work, they should offer to pay for the amount of time you would be away from home. So if an hour's travelling time each way, plus an hour's meeting I would expect 3 hours pay plus costs. But with no obligation to actually attend.

surreysaver

Deleted_User wrote: »

He has said that anyone who doesn't attend will have to attend another meeting (day to be confirmed) at 10pm at night.

Tell him to go do one. Keep us updated on his reaction!

surreysaver

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

If the employee has an issue then htey raise a grievance, your poor advice in being as rude as you want is very poor and likely to get the OP in trouble if they took it when there are better ways of raising issues.

Why should the employee go to the trouble of raising a grievance and drawing attention to themselves?

It is the manager with the problem. Let them go to disciplinary and see how far it gets.

surreysaver

FBaby wrote: »

OP, it doesn't matter what is right or wrong, let alone what is legal or not. The bottom line is if you don't go, you will get yourself a bad name.

Personally, I think that for the sake of one hour, I'll just go with it. It really isn't the end of the world!

Maybe if everyone sticks to their guns, it will be the manager that gets the bad name, not the OP.

It is not just the hour - it is the travelling time as well. And the disruption to the Op's day off.

surreysaver

FBaby wrote: »

Like how it goes from an hour on Sunday to giving up you whole Sunday. How about your boss? Does he normally works Sunday? Do you think he will enjoy taking that time to come and lead a meeting to disgruntled and moaning employees? What do they do it? Because they accept a level of dedication to the company? Oh, that might be why they ended up manager rather than on a mnw job!

I suspect the Op's boss has arranged it to suit himself, without due regard to anyone else.

Perhaps he enjoys upsetting employees - perhaps it is how he manages people. Because he is not a 'people person'. It is the only way he can exercise control.