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Employer want me to attend meeting outside hours

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  • Of course, I've been working here 4.5 years but I'm suddenly going to be sacked for not going to a Sunday evening meeting on my day off. Hell it isn't even in my contract about meetings.

    I can almost guarantee that you won't be sacked for this.

    However I can guarantee that you will be let go at the first available opportunity. I can foresee that this is the first battle in a war between you and the manager
  • bluenoseam
    bluenoseam Posts: 4,612 Forumite
    How can you be disciplined if its not in your contract?


    The point being if you're rude to a direct superior - which like it or lump it your manager is - then it can be taken as insubordination. That's often more than enough reason to start down the disciplinary route for misconduct, it's neither big nor clever to be cheeky to a superior.
    Retired member - fed up with the general tone of the place.
  • bluenoseam wrote: »
    The point being if you're rude to a direct superior - which like it or lump it your manager is - then it can be taken as insubordination. That's often more than enough reason to start down the disciplinary route for misconduct, it's neither big nor clever to be cheeky to a superior.

    Who said anything about being rude? It is neither clever nor big to make up false accusations.
    I consider myself to be a male feminist. Is that allowed?
  • bluenoseam
    bluenoseam Posts: 4,612 Forumite
    Who said anything about being rude? It is neither clever nor big to make up false accusations.

    You know there's been deleted posts right? There was a suggestion to go along & be a bit of a jerk making comments about his management style - should be said those weren't posted by the OP.

    At the time I should've quoted, but alas I didn't, I tend to forget that people have a tendency to delete posts made rashly when the daft parts are pointed out.
    Retired member - fed up with the general tone of the place.
  • pmduk
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    I can't begin to imagine anyone anyone even managing to get my manager to attend a Sunday meeting. He loathes his regularly rostered Saturday shifts as it is!
  • Sharon87
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    I don't think the OP will be singled out or have his card marked if half the workforce didn't turn up as well! If it was just the OP that refused, it may be a bit different. But obviously a lot of other people couldn't/wouldn't attend.

    I used to work at a cinema and we had meetings every 2-3 months, late at night, but we were made aware of these when we started so it was different. No one got in trouble for not attending, as they know not everyone can make it.
  • bluenoseam wrote: »
    You know there's been deleted posts right? There was a suggestion to go along & be a bit of a jerk making comments about his management style - should be said those weren't posted by the OP.
    No deleted post suggested OP be a bit of a jerk, nor even that OP make comments about the manager's style. If you are going to paraphrase, paraphrase fairly.
  • Who said anything about being rude? It is neither clever nor big to make up false accusations.
    I suggested that OP attend without pay, at which point he could be as rude as he liked about the meeting. If you are referring to bluenoseam referring to my deleted post, I think it is not unfair of you to characterise bluenoseam as making false accusations.
  • I suggested that OP attend without pay, at which point he could be as rude as he liked about the meeting. If you are referring to bluenoseam referring to my deleted post, I think it is not unfair of you to characterise bluenoseam as making false accusations.


    Then this is possibly where wires have got crossed.

    From reading that - and feel free to correct me if I'm misreading it - you suggest attending then making rude comments about said meeting. Now I took that to mean make comments either directly to the manager or to a third party about said meetings. (Again, correct where applicable)

    The point I made being that it would be inadvisable to make any rude comments as it could potentially be taken the wrong way. If you meant make the comments in private (i.e. at home) then by all means feel free, but making them to anyone associated with the workplace is a recipe for disaster.

    It's hardly making false accusations when I've merely pointed out that unguarded comments would be a mistake which could end in disciplinary action. That much is undeniable as I'm sure you'll be willing to admit to since you sound like you know that if there's a boss who's a bit of a nippy sweetie then they'll be looking to be nippy.

    For what it's worth I have had these meetings in the past, I generally tend to keep my own counsel about them because it's often just not worth the hassle fighting it. Sometimes it's about knowing when to pick the fight & when to let it slide & more often than not in these situations it's best to let it slide.
    Retired member - fed up with the general tone of the place.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,175 Forumite
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    edited 21 September 2015 at 11:23PM
    I must say that I have not deleted any of my posts.

    I have not been rude to any manager or rude about the meeting. The manager did not even tell staff about the meeting, it was only communicated via a notice on the notice board. I did not show up and nothing has been said about it today. Leading me to highly doubt a 10pm meeting taking place this week and that it was just another bully tactic to get more people there on a Sunday.

    The people saying I should have gone as it might be important health & safety or restructuring etc, I already said I already knew the subject of the meeting and it was nothing that couldn't be communicated in work hours.

    And the people who say that I will be sacked at the next opportunity, well frankly that is unlikely to happen as I am good at my job. Obviously the people who say that I will are obviously crap or mundane at their own jobs where they wouldn't be missed.
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