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MSE News: Victory for passengers on flight delay claims in European court ruling

edited 18 September 2015 at 9:22AM in Flight delay compensation
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edited 18 September 2015 at 9:22AM in Flight delay compensation
The ECJ has ruled that technical problems are not "extraordinary circumstances", meaning passengers can claim...
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Victory for passengers on flight delay claims in landmark European court ruling

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  • glentoran99glentoran99 Forumite
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    is this new?
  • fermifermi Forumite
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    is this new?

    Yes, it is a result hand down by the ECJ today.

    http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2015-09/cp150105en.pdf
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  • VaubanVauban Forumite
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    It's Van dear Lans - the airline was arguing an interpretation of Wallentin along the lines of spontaneous technical faults being extraordinary circumstances. Oddly, the ECJ didn't agree ...
  • edited 18 September 2015 at 9:38AM
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    edited 18 September 2015 at 9:38AM
    It's groundhog day!

    I'm sure I've seen a judgement almost identical to that before, what a surprise - not.

    IMO this case should never have been referred up to the ECJ, it was a weak link (judge) who should have know better.
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  • glentoran99glentoran99 Forumite
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    Tyzap wrote: »
    It's ground hog day!

    I'm sure sure I've seen a judgement almost identical to that before, what a surprise - not.

    IMO this case should never have been referred up to the ECJ, it was a week link (judge) who should have know better.

    Yeah that's what I thought,
  • So if you are a litigant with your claim on hold/stayed because of this, particularly with Ryanair-
    Now is the time to contact your court and get the stay lifted...
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  • and I thought we were having a holiday for a few weeks, get your Ryanair claims in, and get any stays lifted NOW!!

    Good luck

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  • edited 17 September 2015 at 2:16PM
    Smudge's_LotSmudge's_Lot Forumite
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    I am afraid that as I work for an airline,this will only be self defeating.

    Does anybody out there think that paying say £100 for a flight should then be entitled to £300 compensation when a crucial part on the plane fails for whatever reason?

    Do you get compensation from National Express coaches when a coach gets a tyre puncture and you are delayed?

    Do you get compensation that is 3 times your ticket cost for when your train is delayed by strong winds bringing down power cables?

    Parts can and do fail and yet with the strongest safety ethic in almost any industry,do you think some airlines will now just go ahead and fly rather than delay the flight so they are not liable for compensation......

    Is your £300 worth that risk that has been imposed by the ECJ.??

    The compensation culture will only mean that businesses will increase costs,and guess who ends paying that-look at car insurance-part of everyone's insurance pays for the sore neck culture out there,so with airlines,fares WILL go up and some airlines WILL cut corners

    Is that what we want?
  • 111KAB111KAB Forumite
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    No what we want is an efficient punctual flight and I for one do not mind paying the 50p extra per person per flight as proven by Jet2's own figures in respect of the cost to them for 261/2004 claims.
  • Smudge's_LotSmudge's_Lot Forumite
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    I am not suggesting that Jet 2 would cut corners but some airlines WILL because the flood gates have been opened by the ECJ which means they will have to pay out if a technical fault affects the flight-do you think your extra 50p guarantees that no part will fail-no,that's the nature of machines!does everybody's car run faultlessly every day,every year,even with servicing,does your car run with no defects-ever?
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