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Wages are growing at their fastest rate for six years - + 2.9% YoY

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  • System
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    "Sat – working a Saturday evening is the same as a midweek morning"

    Oh the humanity! Now you'll be the same as everyone else.
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  • Generali
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    Joeskeppi wrote: »
    "Sat – working a Saturday evening is the same as a midweek morning"

    Oh the humanity! Now you'll be the same as everyone else.

    I used to work as a barman and got the same on a Sunday night as a Wednesday lunchtime. It's standard in many jobs where you work across the while week rather than just 9-5.
  • danothy
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    Generali wrote: »
    I used to work as a barman and got the same on a Sunday night as a Wednesday lunchtime. It's standard in many jobs where you work across the while week rather than just 9-5.

    I have also done the barman thing with unsociable hours, and the retail thing with no discrimination between so called working days and weekends. If the job needs doing outside of a Mon-Fri 9-5 environment then the notion that the shifts outside these hours are more valuable is a false one.
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  • Thrugelmir wrote: »
    £1 in £10 the Government spends is borrowed money. Why should Junior Doctors be treated any differently to the rest of the public sector?

    simple answer increase income tax,lower rate 25% higher rate 50%,and while they are at it as fuel has dropped so much in price add 10p to the duty on petrol/diesel,should raise a few billion
  • cells
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    bsms1147 wrote: »
    Noone knows what pay will be (which in itself is a problem), but based on the favoured scenario put forward by the DDRB, pay will likely be 20-30% less. Some doctors will be losing 50%+. All for worse hours and fewer safeguards.

    It is planned to affect all junior doctors (which covers all doctors who aren't consultants), from next year, regardless of stage of career and regardless of preexisting contracts.

    Someone who started a five year training scheme, for example, this year, and who expected to receive a certain amount of pay for the next five years, and so based financial decisions on that pay, may find themselves proverbially screwed.

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    If there was a free for all in becoming doctors (like there is in almost every other profession) doctors would probably be paid less than nurses

    So many people apply to study medicine that a lot of the universities turn down triple A grade students.

    Get rid of some wasteful courses and allow more people to train as doctors lots more. Then when they graduate hire the 80% that can't find work as doctors to be nurses instead.....
  • Thrugelmir
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    woodbine wrote: »
    simple answer increase income tax,lower rate 25% higher rate 50%,and while they are at it as fuel has dropped so much in price add 10p to the duty on petrol/diesel,should raise a few billion

    Few billion is well short of what's required. Though when you see the money wasted on fluffy sofas and employees expenses one does question the mentality of some people. The word entitlement springs to mind. Something much of the private sector kicked into touch years ago. There's some ivory towers that require breaching. Will be plenty of gnashing of teeth in the next few years.
  • BobQ
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    kathrynha wrote: »
    Some people are obviously getting big pay rises, because an awful lot are getting 1% or less

    Probably the ones inflicting the 1% on the others!
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  • Jon_B_2
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    2.9%? Not for us frontline workers in terms NHS! Lucky to get 1% or a pay freeze!
    Half a story. Including your increment your total rise is probably above the 2.9% average.

    Most people who moan about these statistics have usually been in the same job for over 5 years and believe being loyal should equal a pay rise. You only have to look at money saving topics to realise that to get the best deals you usually have to switch.

    Salaries are no different...
  • Jon_B wrote: »
    Most people who moan about these statistics have usually been in the same job for over 5 years and believe being loyal should equal a pay rise. You only have to look at money saving topics to realise that to get the best deals you usually have to switch.

    Salaries are no different...

    True.

    Although to be fair it's often a good career move to demonstrate stability and internal promotion within a company as well, so there's a balance to be had, jumping ship every time you get a higher offer is likely to be detrimental to your long term career/salary prospects.
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  • Carl31
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    True.

    Although to be fair it's often a good career move to demonstrate stability and internal promotion within a company as well, so there's a balance to be had, jumping ship every time you get a higher offer is likely to be detrimental to your long term career/salary prospects.

    I think this is a real old school mentality

    I was told that when i started out my career, however I didnt listen and have moved between jobs quite a bit in the past 15 years, what I find nowdays is that moving has allowed me to gain a real breadth of experience that employers now want. It might just be my industry (Commerical accounting/finance) but moving about reguarly has certainly paid off for me, I have easily doubled my salary since 5 years ago, and am now in a position to increase by another 20/30% with my next move, but that could be in part due to my age and place in my career
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