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CRU Certificate (Compensation recovery unit)- Requested by defendant ??

If there is a case going on between a claimant and a defendant, which the court proceedings have started, but the court date has not been given yet,

the case is in negotiations between the claimant and defendant,

and then the claimant gets a letter from the Compensation recovery unit (who have sent an CRU certificate), which the defendant has requested,

then does this mean that the defendant is on the verge of admitting liability and paying out, so they are requesting this certificate, (to see what £ is owed, hence asking for that certificate)

Hence, is the fact the defendant has requested this certificate fro the CRU department, an indication that the defendant is going to pay up, and the claimant will win this case ?,

so the defendant is just checking any other costs to be paid up (to the CRU department)?
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  • ampersand
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    katesheet, are you in the correct section of the forum?

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  • The Defendant's representatives (the potential compensators) need to obtain an up to date CRU certificate if they are going to settle as they would need to potentially offset any state benefits paid from any lost earnings claim being made etc.

    The timing of this could purely be coincidence (if they have not previously obtained a certificate), on the other hand it could be an indication they are doing their sums before making an offer.
  • bargepole
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    katesheet wrote: »
    If there is a case going on between a claimant and a defendant, which the court proceedings have started, but the court date has not been given yet,

    the case is in negotiations between the claimant and defendant,

    and then the claimant gets a letter from the Compensation recovery unit (who have sent an CRU certificate), which the defendant has requested,

    then does this mean that the defendant is on the verge of admitting liability and paying out, so they are requesting this certificate, (to see what £ is owed, hence asking for that certificate)

    Hence, is the fact the defendant has requested this certificate fro the CRU department, an indication that the defendant is going to pay up, and the claimant will win this case ?,

    so the defendant is just checking any other costs to be paid up (to the CRU department)?

    This is, I presume, a Personal Injury claim, or similar.

    I does not mean any admission of liability on the part of the defendant. By law, they have to notify the CRU of any such claim made, and the CRU will advise of any benefits claimed during the relevant period, and any NHS charges incurred.

    If the Claimant succeeds, the CRU will then recover those sums from the defendant.

    I have been providing assistance, including Lay Representation at Court hearings (current score: won 57, lost 14), to defendants in parking cases for over 5 years. I have an LLB (Hons) degree, and have a Graduate Diploma in Civil Litigation from CILEx. However, any advice given on these forums by me is NOT formal legal advice, and I accept no liability for its accuracy.
  • bris
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    It means the defendant is wanting to get everything he/she needs to get and know in preparation for the case. Probably at the advice of or the request of a solicitor, anything else is just speculation.
  • The Defendant's representatives (the potential compensators) need to obtain an up to date CRU certificate if they are going to settle as they would need to potentially offset any state benefits paid from any lost earnings claim being made etc.

    The timing of this could purely be coincidence (if they have not previously obtained a certificate), on the other hand it could be an indication they are doing their sums before making an offer.

    Thanks Onan.

    They have not previously obtained one, it is their first request of a CRU certificate.

    (and it is after back- and forth of letters of points between the claimant - defendant)

    - could that hint another indicator, to what you said Onan?



    but the timing is slightly weeks 'after' received the claimants' info sent to them.
    The Defendant's representatives (the potential compensators) need to obtain an up to date CRU certificate if they are going to settle
    They only request the certificate if they are going to settle?
    What if the defendant feels they will win the case, and not need to settle - a payout,

    then would they not request this CRU certificate ?
  • No they request a certificate as a matter of general procedure as they need to budget/ set a reserve for what they may have to pay if the Claimant's claim succeeds.

    So like I said, the obtaining of a certificate should not be taken as an indicator a settlement offer will be forthcoming..

    Alongside CRU pointing out any benefits paid as a result of the injury, any emergency medical care (A&E etc) is also tracked through the national insurance number required to obtain a CRU cert.

    I would not read into the fact it was some weeks after the correspondence started that a CRU cert is applied for, the other side could have just been a little slow out of the blocks, especially if dealing with a litigant in person as you may not have presented all the info in the prescribed format from the start.

    They would still obtain a cert even if they intended to fight the claim to the death.
  • agrinnall
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    Did you really need to post the same thread on 4 boards?
  • ampersand
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    op has posted this on 4 different mse areas.
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  • wealdroam
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    agrinnall wrote: »
    Did you really need to post the same thread on 4 boards?

    Yes, Kate always does this.

    You will also notice that she rarely responds to any questions.
    It's a waste of time responding to any of her threads.

    Thirty four threads started this year, but only around fifteen different subjects.
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