DBS check and working with children.

wilbo1974

Creepy? deffo not. It's perfectly normal for people to help out in their children's schools. Would you not go on a school trip with your kid or help out at a sports day? Are you suggesting that because of my conviction I shouldn't have anything to do with my kids schooling?
Elsie has Downs, she may or may not need extra care and may or may not be able to attend mainstream school. For sure she may never lead an independent life which means the mother and myself are in this till we die.
It is certain that I will not be living in the same house as them. I can either do the unthinkable thing and walk away and leave my ex to the considerable and hard task of looking after her for a long time. Or educate myself to the correct standard and assert my rights so that my daughter and ex can benefit and I can see more of her.
The question was only about the possibilities not about approval.

Creepy and stalking, really?

tomtontom

lukieboy96 wrote: »

I worked in a nursery and had a conviction. I told them about it and got the job and was promoted to Deputy Manager within a year.

I'm guessing your conviction did not relate directly to someone that attends the nursery?

I'd also point out that the CPS do not prosecute if they don't want to - the decision is theirs, not the victim's. And it takes a lot to get to that stage, certainly more than a few heated phone calls.

beckett110

If the conviction is just purely for harassment then it wouldn't impact on a DBS check, yes the police will have access to the details but if there was no violence then it would be deemed not relevant as it wouldn't imply you were a risk to children or vulnerable adults.

If there was any violence involved then it would be based on the level of violence and injuries that resulted from it. My job is to carry out checks on behalf of DBS and judging by what you've said the details wouldn't be disclosed to DBS.

Hope this helps.

wilbo1974

What is your connection with the CPS for you to know what they do or don't do?

I assure you they would have settled out of court with an injunction stopping me from making contact with my ex for any other reason than access to my daughter. I agreed to this, however when they approached my ex she insisted on me going before the magistrate.

It seems we are more interested in talking about what I did rather than the actual question I asked. It makes me suspect trolling, though I won't jump to the conclusion yet.

Yes it was more than the heated phone calls. The police spoke to me and issued a PIN, considering the whole thing was about my daughter I foolishly ignored it and made more contact with the ex. Hense my getting arrested and charged with harassment. The reason the CPS was reluctant was that my ex had given as good as she got in the arguments, the whole thing came about because I foolishly ignored the PIN.

BlueEyedGirl

wilbo1974 wrote: »

I might just write to the local authority or school and ask what the score is.

That would be rather pointless, since they look at each and every person different. You could have one conviction for harassment why someone else's conviction might be for child pornography and therefore would stand no chance of getting a job working with children.

I also agree with other posters, perhaps you need to arrange access to see your daughter through the proper channels.

BlueEyedGirl

wilbo1974 wrote: »

Creepy? deffo not. It's perfectly normal for people to help out in their children's schools. Would you not go on a school trip with your kid or help out at a sports day? Are you suggesting that because of my conviction I shouldn't have anything to do with my kids schooling?
Elsie has Downs, she may or may not need extra care and may or may not be able to attend mainstream school. For sure she may never lead an independent life which means the mother and myself are in this till we die.
It is certain that I will not be living in the same house as them. I can either do the unthinkable thing and walk away and leave my ex to the considerable and hard task of looking after her for a long time. Or educate myself to the correct standard and assert my rights so that my daughter and ex can benefit and I can see more of her.
The question was only about the possibilities not about approval.

Creepy and stalking, really?

I admire you for wanting to be a part of your daughters life. Perhaps you should go via Social Services and a Contact Centre.

wilbo1974

Cheers Beckett110 that is helpful to know.
There was no violence involved.

BlueEyedGirl

Cheeky_Monkey wrote: »

Exactly (rolls eyes)

Why you are rolling your eyes, god only knows!

wilbo1974

BlueEyedGirl wrote: »

I admire you for wanting to be a part of your daughters life. Perhaps you should go via Social Services and a Contact Centre.

Yeah this is the crux. I want to go to the family courts and get it all sorted but my ex is really against me doing that, she says I can see Elsie so why would I want to go to court.
From my point of veiw though I see that we are completely chalk and cheese on nearly everything we do hense our relationship failing. I would rather strike my claim to an independent relationship with my daughter through official channels so that no matter what happens my rights are set in stone. As it is I just feel incredably vulnerable to the whims of my ex if we disagree on something in the future.

beckett110

wilbo1974 wrote: »

Cheers Beckett110 that is helpful to know.
There was no violence involved.

I wouldn't worry in the slightest then if I was you, it would need to be pretty bad for the police to disclose it to DBS. As long as you've learnt from it and don't rise to it in future then I think you'll be fine. It would be wrong of anyone to judge you when you've already admitted you were in the wrong, we all make mistakes.

Good luck with everything.