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Where will all the refugees live?

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  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    molerat wrote: »
    That is one that I had thought of but they would be "camps" so the hand wringing brigade would object. With the amount of RAF bases that have closed in recent years there must be loads of accommodation, mess halls with large kitchens and recreation facilities that could be brought back into use fairly quickly.

    What's wrong with living in a camp for the first year? Armed services families have lived in these places, as you say.

    To pay for this, we are allowed to redirect the foreign aid budget to internal assistance like this for one year.

    Besides, we can use these camps for German refugees in years to come !
  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    I was wondering what's to stop a less popular EU Nation giving away a crazy number of Citizenships knowing that the migrants they give them to will almost always move straight onto Germany France UK etc

    So for example could Bulgaria give citizenship to 100 million poor folk from Africa and the middle east.
  • Graham_Devon
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    Just been listening to the BBC news. Didn't catch the ministers name, but apparently we have the school places, we have the homes and we have the resources. Finances are not an issue. £13,000 for each and every child per year has already been allocated for education purposes.


    It now appears we have all that..... for 575 refugees as per what's been offered by the 30 councils signed up.

    Not 10,000, 15,000 or whatever else the number may be.
  • shaggydoo
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    edited 7 September 2015 at 3:10PM
    This is not an awkward question, it is a complicated question with no easy answer. Sadly, a world without dictators, corrupt governments or terrorist groups will probably never exist so there will always be desperate people needing help from those of us lucky enough to be born into a better life.

    Lucky enough?

    Never forget our ancestors fought for the life way of life we have (ever since Magna Carter) - they didn't flee at the first sign of a bit of trouble? They weren't yellow bellied surrender monkeys.
    What do we do when we fall? We get up, dust ourselves off and start walking in the right direction again. Perhaps when we fall, it is easy to forget there are people along the way who help us stand and walk with us as we get back on track.
  • Sapphire
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    What's really alarming to many is the pictures one sees of the aggressive males landing in Greece, who seem to be dominant among the migrants (first thing some of them do is take selfles of themselves with expensive mobile phones). Many are coming from safe areas. They do not look like refugees by any stretch, more like economic migrants (or something else).

    In principal, I wouldn't mind if we took in, say, orphaned children directly from camps in Syria, but the mobs that are arriving in Europe from Syria, Afghanistan, sub-Saharan Africa, Nigeria, Pakistan (and Albania) and so on appear to be more like an invasion than anything else. I'm very worried about the security of Europe – the situation appears to be out of control and there appears to be no attempt to stop the influx. I also think that from an economic perspective (as well as to prevent severe social unrest), European countries can only afford to take in a limited amount of people – not the millions or tens of millions who would like to settle here.
  • tberry6686
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    It seems a bit odd that (from the images seen so far) that the vast majority of these so called refugees are young men. Normally you would expect refugees from a warzone to be mainly women, children and the elderly.

    I wonder why it is different this time.
  • kabayiri
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    tberry6686 wrote: »
    It seems a bit odd that (from the images seen so far) that the vast majority of these so called refugees are young men. Normally you would expect refugees from a warzone to be mainly women, children and the elderly.

    I wonder why it is different this time.

    Facebook.

    Seriously, it's all their mates already in European countries feeding back pictures of how nice life is in Germany.

    The SNP should employ these people in the Scottish Tourist board. They might even be able to make Scotland sound enticing. (I doubt it though)
  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    tberry6686 wrote: »
    It seems a bit odd that (from the images seen so far) that the vast majority of these so called refugees are young men. Normally you would expect refugees from a warzone to be mainly women, children and the elderly.

    I wonder why it is different this time.


    Poor peoples tend to stay put. When Poland joined the EU lots migrated to richer nations but 95% stayed put

    Usually you need some other factor to prompt people to leave be it war or discrimation. But once you decided you have to leave and start a new life its natural to want to go to richer nations

    There are good and bad aspect of immigration. This time it looks like Germany will take the most of it and I suspect next year night be twice as many.
  • mumps
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    tberry6686 wrote: »
    It seems a bit odd that (from the images seen so far) that the vast majority of these so called refugees are young men. Normally you would expect refugees from a warzone to be mainly women, children and the elderly.

    I wonder why it is different this time.

    There seem to be lots of women and children, and very young babies, in the photos I have seen.
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  • PasturesNew
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    People think that most of them are "families" - so many kids shoved in front of cameras on the telly .... but the BBC journalists that spent a lot of the end of last week and the weekend on the ground said they're mostly single men.

    In this country single men aren't housed, the term we use for our own is "homeless".
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