Apcoa parking charge notice - birmingham airport

enfield_freddy

ok , listened to that , but they cannot convert a parking ticket tto a byelaw offence and back again , the original charge (as posted above) is 'alleged contravention is a breach of the terms and conditions of the use of the airport road infrastructure"
this as we know is not a road applicable for POFA2012


therefore the airport owners would have to issue a charge under bylaws , that would be for trespass , however they have invited the OP on the site , as per emails/tickets for flights etc

Redx

the problem is they have sent a parking charge notice , so its a parking invoice

then they state it breaks bylaws, cannot have it both ways

if its a pcn the OP appeals it and if they offer popla then it goes to the ombudsman

if its trespass, then the pcn does not apply and is void and the OP awaits a bylaw "penalty" notice

depends on what they reply with to the appeal , so in the link I gave hoohoo had an appeal that covered it, both ways

up to now apcoa have always offered popla

this one was pending a reply, only 2 months ago

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5266243

Northlakes

The POPLA/OS route gives an avenue to go down and win. This cancels the PCN and avoids any further hassle. It will cost the PPC £27 as well.

You don't want these things hanging around for 6 years and possible complications if the OP moves house etc.

Go down the POPLA/OS route, win and clear the matter finally.

Redx

this one https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5268033 received a popla code but a complaint to the airport saw it cancelled

so muddy waters

NellyK

Thank you for your comments. The notice does not mention bye laws or POFA but does say that POPLA may be engaged as a final avenue of recourse once xxxxx appeals process has been exhausted. It does say that the vehicle keeper data has been obtained from the DVLA under REg 27 (1) (e) and that they may engage debt collectors if the payment is not received within 28 das but I believe they would have to take me to court and win before they could do this

enfield_freddy

ok , not falling out with you but its


1: an "invoice" under the POFA2012 act


2: or a request to attend court for a charge of trespass.


in the case of the second offence , this should be issued by the airport (land owner) and not the PPC




or 3: pay a rip off charge of a £100 and we will not take you to court , where the max fine is about £10

Redx

post #17 indicates a pcn and popla for mediation, so its not bylaws and should be treated in the usual manner except its not relevant land so POFA 2012 cannot apply

APCOA havent a clue what they are doing and havent done for all the time I have been coming on here, but they have lost many times at popla over airports and the advice has almost always been the same, appeal, then popla

enfield_freddy

Northlakes wrote: »

The POPLA/OS route gives an avenue to go down and win. This cancels the PCN and avoids any further hassle. It will cost the PPC £27 as well.

You don't want these things hanging around for 6 years and possible complications if the OP moves house etc.

Go down the POPLA/OS route, win and clear the matter finally.

'alleged contravention is a breach of the terms and conditions of the use of the airport road infrastructure and that the driver of the vehicle at the time of the breach is required to pay the charge.




non POFA2012 land ,POPLA not applicable

Redx

if its not applicable, then why do they keep issuing popla codes and losing at popla ?

your theory is great, but not borne out in practice

its the same at Luton too, good theory, but apcoa dont apply your excellent theory and issue popla codes, then lose at popla

enfield_freddy

Redx wrote: »

post #17 indicates a pcn and popla for mediation, so its not bylaws and should be treated in the usual manner except its not relevant land so POFA 2012 cannot apply

APCOA havent a clue what they are doing and havent done for all the time I have been coming on here, but they have lost many times at popla over airports and the advice has almost always been the same, appeal, then popla

the op seems to change the words


post about number 4 "says 'alleged contravention is a breach of the terms and conditions of the use of the airport road infrastructure and that the driver of the vehicle at the time of the breach is required to pay the charge


then says "Thank you for your comments. The notice does not mention bye laws or POFA but does say that POPLA may be engaged as a final avenue of recourse once xxxxx appeals process has been exhausted. "


now lets have one or the other!


if it is relevant land , then yes POPLa , however if it is not , ,,,,