NHS lease car

[Deleted User]

Ah but then you'd have to increase they're salaries or they'd all leave.

All well and good moaning about benefits that NHS staff get but no-one goes to work out of the goodness of their heart. If you get a better offer elsewhere, staff will leave.

Just imagine having your knee operation cancelled because they aren't able to recruit enough nurses. Would you be happy with this?

ChumLee

[quote=[Deleted User];69099303]Ah but then you'd have to increase they're salaries or they'd all leave.

All well and good moaning about benefits that NHS staff get but no-one goes to work out of the goodness of their heart. If you get a better offer elsewhere, staff will leave.

Just imagine having your knee operation cancelled because they aren't able to recruit enough nurses. Would you be happy with this?[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't rise to DM. If you cut leases they'd have to provide poo/company cars or have them using public transport. So either costs would so up or services would be cut. Dave would never admit that was happening.

saverbuyer

ChumLee wrote: »

How is that reducing her pension, if her contributions into the pension scheme remain the same?

From an info leaflet on the scheme


This move from the 1995 and 2008 schemes means that the membership of any salary sacrifice will affect your pensionable pay used in calculating your pension benefits under the new 2015 scheme. As such please
consider er the implications before applying for and joining a salary sacrifice scheme.

BeenThroughItAll

Do you know what those doctors earning that amount actually *do* for it?


Having spent five years working in out of hours healthcare providers following the GP contract change in 2004, I do.


Would you give up your weekends, evenings, overnights, bank holidays and Christmas for a few extra quid? That's where most of the money comes from - and for every British GP earning 200K, there are a hundred earning more like a quarter of that (salaried GPs range starts at ~£52K IIRC).

dannyrst

No. Londoners are extremely overpaid.

Tube workers go on strike because they don't get a pay rise. They earn £50k a year. I'm pretty sure I could sit on a chair and move a leaver backwards and forwards for £50k a year. I couldn't, however, sit and diagnose person after person with different illnesses.

BeenThroughItAll

Simple. Work 52 weekends a year (104days), do a twelve hour nightshift (2000-0800hrs) at ~£60/hr, add in a few enhancement days for bank holidays and additional payments from any practices/practice groups/co-operatives you're a partner in and *bingo*, gross £100K a year.


For working nightshifts in a stressful environment, dealing with potentially dangerous patients in their homes or quiet overnight surgeries, £60/hr isn't a lot, you realise. Someone doing normal 37.5 hour weeks in a year for £50K is earning ~£26/hr for being awake during the day.

BeenThroughItAll

So you'd be happy doing a life and death job for less than that would you? Paying extortionate fees for insurance, professional membership, CPD etc?


Soldiers' pay isn't a comparator - they get good healthcare, plenty of leave, a good pension, subsidised housing at certain times in their career, and other benefits - and they, like doctors, volunteer to do so knowing what the wages are like. Yes, they run the risk of having to go to war, but that is not guaranteed, albeit it has been the 'norm' for some years now.


A doctor is guaranteed to see people die, have to prescribe potentially lifesaving or life-ending drugs, and make quick, accurate decisions without fear.


A newly qualified GP doesn't walk into a 100K a year job, and a private fresh out of basic doesn't walk into a Colonel's post at £80K plus.

ChumLee

If you ever need open heart surgery or a brain op is the consultant worth that or would you rather one on minimum wage with no qualification or experience?

molerat

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[Deleted User]

Got some details now. The cheapest you can get pretty much is about £220 a month. Still not bad considering it covers car, maintenance, repairs, insurance, etc.