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Brown_Eyed_Girl

Whilst it's not much help now, for others it's why you have to go through those docs with a fine tooth comb and question everything, as once it's all signed it's so much harder to prove they knowingly lied.

My solisitors sent mine over last week & in the accompanying letter they advised me to check through it based on my knowledge of the property (and this is before survey), which is what they've said with every doc.

Immediately I could see things that didn't make sense or that I questioned based on bits of info I had. I sent them a ridiculously long list. Some turned out to be perfectly fine, others have warranted further inquiry. As I say this is before the survey & I suspect I'll have to check it all again based on what that says.

Sadly the only one who's going to know if you can take action is the solisitor. And even if you can, as others have suggested it might cost you just as much.

The_Shadow

Davesnave wrote: »

This is where you would need to involve professionals. There is no mention on either thread that you had a structural survey.

Hi Davesnave, we never had a structural survey done, the survey would not have picked up the electrical issues we have found since moving in as they were not visible, Structural surveys are only confined to building issues and are not service related, there would also be a caveat somewhere incase they missed someting

Vectis

Why have you started a new thread?

People should read the previous thread before posting anything here - this is just going over the same ground again, hoping for a different answer.

Go and see a solicitor if you don't like the answers you've been given.

The_Shadow

Brown_Eyed_Girl wrote: »

Whilst it's not much help now, for others it's why you have to go through those docs with a fine tooth comb and question everything, as once it's all signed it's so much harder to prove they knowingly lied.

My solisitors sent mine over last week & in the accompanying letter they advised me to check through it based on my knowledge of the property (and this is before survey), which is what they've said with every doc.

Immediately I could see things that didn't make sense or that I questioned based on bits of info I had. I sent them a ridiculously long list. Some turned out to be perfectly fine, others have warranted further inquiry. As I say this is before the survey & I suspect I'll have to check it all again based on what that says.

Sadly the only one who's going to know if you can take action is the solisitor. And even if you can, as others have suggested it might cost you just as much.

Thanks for your response, the onus surely is on the vendor to sell a property to ensure that the electrics are safe and fit for purpose without causing injury or electrocution. We are holding him solely responsible for any injury caused till the issue is resolved at his cost.

lincroft1710

The_Shadow wrote: »

the onus surely is on the vendor to sell a property to ensure that the electrics are safe and fit for purpose without causing injury or electrocution.

Can you find any relevant legislation which states this?

kinger101

The_Shadow wrote: »

Thanks for your response, the onus surely is on the vendor to sell a property to ensure that the electrics are safe and fit for purpose without causing injury or electrocution. We are holding him solely responsible for any injury caused till the issue is resolved at his cost.

Now you're just being silly. I suppose it's the driver's fault if you jump out in front of a bus as well. The vendor does not have to ensure anything is safe. There are plenty of potential death traps sold everyday at auctions for example.

missprice

The_Shadow wrote: »

Thanks for your response, the onus surely is on the vendor to sell a property to ensure that the electrics are safe and fit for purpose without causing injury or electrocution. We are holding him solely responsible for any injury caused till the issue is resolved at his cost.

No necessarily, the house I am in now had ancient electrics, with terrible botch ups from various workmen. Still bought it knowing that a full rewire was needed.
One double socket was half an inch from the hot water tap. Didn't need an expert to tell me how bad the whole electric wiring was.
If you want to know something is safe, you get an independent report on it.
Same as for a car, motorbike, caravan etc.

Without a independent report ( not a sucking of air through teeth guesstimate) you won't get far.
And at at least one point in my life I have lived with washing machines, dryers, irons, multitude of appliances used on extension leads. No one died, no one got a shock.

I think, and many on this thread think, you are on a hiding to nothing. Get the things fixed at your own expense and move on.

Brown_Eyed_Girl

You'd think but no. And whilst you think he might have lied, there's no way to prove that he knew the electrics where in anyway not up to scratch. For all you know he's been the victim of a dodgy electrician who has said that its all fine.

Someone could sell you anything, even a place that should be condemned. But unless they've been told "the place is condemned" and then kept it quiet, I.e there something documenting it, it's going to be hard to prove you've been knowingly mislead.

The only way you'd know is via the survey and even they have caveats but they'd be able to advise based on what they saw for you to probe further. If youve just got the basic valuation then sadly they may just have looked on Google maps - which is what my brother thinks they did on his house, as they got builders etc to look over it separately as they knew it needed work.

FYI - I'm a FTB so not got to the post sale bit yet. But I assume anything I don't read, raise or question is on my head after I've exchanged. And even then I'm expecting some surprises.

Davesnave

The_Shadow wrote: »

Hi Davesnave, we never had a structural survey done, the survey would not have picked up the electrical issues we have found since moving in as they were not visible, Structural surveys are only confined to building issues and are not service related, there would also be a caveat somewhere incase they missed someting

I'm not sure what you are saying here. Does the last sentence mean that you think a full structural survey isn't worth the paper it's written on?

Some people hold this view.

However, you also mention a structural matter which you also want to pursue, and I'd imagine the lack of a structural survey would have relevance there, if only to prove that you showed due diligence.

Dan-Dan

Have i missed the part where the OP says they did get a full electrical report done prior to purchase?