Law Society Property Information Form

eddddy

If the vendor made a false statement on the SPIF, that is misrepresentation, and you can claim for your resulting losses from the vendor (e.g. the cost of getting an electrician to correct the wiring etc)

You can consult a solicitor about this, or you can 'do-it-yourself' and make a claim against the vendor in the small claims court (if the loss/claim is for £10k or less). See: https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/overview

Obviously, you would need to gather sufficient evidence to support your claim in court.

Davesnave

eddddy wrote: »

Obviously, you would need to gather sufficient evidence to support your claim in court.

This is where you would need to involve professionals. There is no mention on either thread that you had a structural survey.

Dan-Dan

Dont forget , getting judgement is only the start , what are you going to do if vendor has no money or just doesnt pay?
You`ll need to enforce = more stress and money

Lifes too short , honestly

The_Shadow

kinger101 wrote: »

You've asked this already. I'm not sure how much of this is your interpretation - you've already been told trailing sockets (i.e. extensions) do not require certification.

If you can proves he's lied and there is a consequential loss, you'll probably win. Have you actually got a builder or electrician to check the work?

Why not write something more stern;

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/taking-action-about-consumer-problems/legal-action/going-to-court/taking-court-action/step-one-write-a-letter-before-action/

Hi because the vendor lied on the property information forms we took his word that no work had been carried out on the electrical installation as the box had been ticked. New electrical work had been carried out since 2005, this can be proved by my electrician and the new colour coding on the wiring that has been installed. It has come to light since taking over the property that the installation of new structural beams and roofing trusses require building regulation and structural calculation to ensure that they can carry the load. Their again the vendor quite clearly lied on the Law property to say the work was exempt from building regulation approval. The trailing sockets were installed on the floor behind kitchen units to connect washing a machine and dishwasher the consequences of this could be very grave and lead to fusing of electrical circuits and possible electrocution if the area became wet. To put right the electrical work is going to cost me around £750.00.I
If I have a sound case I would want to take him to court to reclaim the money (but only if I have a sound case)

bouicca21

Just because the official colour coding for cables changed early in 2006, doesn't mean cables compliant with the new code weren't on sale before that date in anticipation of the change. Can you prove they weren't? Because you will have to.

Roof trusses etc should surely have been picked up by your surveyor - you still haven't told us that you had one. There was surely some obligation on you to conduct your purchase with due diligence, I.e. Get a survey.

DaftyDuck

You are on a hiding to nothing here. The wording on the PIF is vague enough to give leeway for this kind of situation. I repeat what many have said before. THERE IS NO LEGAL ISSUE WITH TRAILING SOCKETS OR EXTENSION LEADS BEHIND CABINETS. You'd need far more evidence than colour-changed wiring to date the work, and you'd need a professional report on the faults to even begin the process. You might stand a chance if you find the production code on the wiring... if your 'leccy is just going by the colours, then no chance at all. Cost for that? I'd guess three to four hundred pounds. With little chance of seeing it back.

You keep insisting the vendor lied. Too dogmatic, by far, and will only lead to heartache for you, unless you recognise this. Possibilities include (amongst a myriad others) ... forgot... misunderstood... was mislead by a professional... whatever.

There are cases where a vendor can be chased on what he's (mis)stated on a form. This is not one of them, in my opinion. Most of what you suggest is a fault is not. Trailing sockets are not. The sink could have been changed by the vendor, affecting the earthing, but that's not a reportable job. The kitchen could have been altered... who knows. Most electrical work in a kitchen is now permissible for a DIYer... no need for building regs either....

As to suggesting it would be very grave and risk electrocution... I assume you noted the consumer unit, or your surveyor did. If it has rcds, then no, you would 't get a shock. Or only a mild one.

You are getting completely wound up on this, reposting a new thread when you don't like the answers on the previous one, yet getting more of the same answers. Yes, I'd really love to tell you it would be easy to claim back, as you might (might) have been mislead. But, I won't mislead you.

Get over this. Get a couple more quotes in, stop faffing over stuff like extension leads (how many other posters use them for dw/wm - I do) and stop chasing red herrings. If you want perfect electrics(!) get a full electrical survey before purchase, and insist the vendor makes them up to current standards before you buy.

wwl

If the facts and losses are clear and easily demonstrable, the Small Claims track may be a relatively low-risk option.

DaftyDuck

wwl wrote: »

If the facts and losses are clear and easily demonstrable, the Small Claims track may be a relatively low-risk option.

He'll still need to fork out for a professional opinion, and that ain't cheap. He's also confusing what didn't need reporting with what possibly might. Possibly, note.

It'd probably be a waste of time and effort.

kinger101

The_Shadow wrote: »

The trailing sockets were installed on the floor behind kitchen units to connect washing a machine and dishwasher the consequences of this could be very grave and lead to fusing of electrical circuits and possible electrocution if the area became wet. To put right the electrical work is going to cost me around £750.00.

But you weren't electrocuted, so there is no consequential loss. Unplugging the extension cables costs £0. Considerably cheaper than £750.

lincroft1710

Having just read Homersimpson's post on your other thread, I think you may be wasting your time in trying to pursue the vendor.