College informing my daughter she is a failure

Topcat1982

What about a job as an Air Hostess? She now has waitressing experience and she's passed level 1 of the travel course

*Robin*

Topcat1982 wrote: »

What about a job as an Air Hostess? She now has waitressing experience and she's passed level 1 of the travel course

"To get started in this role, you will usually need a good standard of education, including GCSEs (grades A-C) in maths and English, or equivalent qualifications."

Quote taken from:
https://nationalcareersservice.direct.gov.uk/advice/planning/jobprofiles/Pages/aircabincrew.aspx

Unfortunately Topcat, OP's daughter would still need to re-take her GCSEs first.

Homeagain

Topcat1982 wrote: »

What about a job as an Air Hostess? She now has waitressing experience and she's passed level 1 of the travel course

That's exactly what she was hoping and studying for. It was her dream. Her late father was a pilot and it was one of her motivations for taking this course.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

I think she should look at retaking English GCSE as a priority, as having a C in this (and Maths) is the basis for most further study. You can do Open University courses at any stage of life, with no prior qualifications, but I think this might be a step too far for her right now.

She can get lots out of the restaurant job; if she expresses interest in learning to cash up, balance a till, help with stocktaking and training new staff she'll have loads of useful skills and it will boost her confidence.

missbiggles1

Homeagain wrote: »

That's exactly what she was hoping and studying for. It was her dream. Her late father was a pilot and it was one of her motivations for taking this course.

Having been a tutor on a BTEC National Travel and Tourism course for over 10 years, I have to say that it's not generally intended for people wanting to become cabin crew and none of my 300/400 odd students ever took that path (although some did think of it before they started).

As has been already said, getting restaurant experience is probably the best thing she could do (they're not called waitresses in the sky for nothing!) as well as ensuring she gets the requisite grades in English and Maths. Perhaps she can also build on the foreign language(s) she's passed at GCSE and on her BTEC course as well?

Hopefully she's now getting over her initial disappointment and is able to look forwards.:)

Homeownertobe

Homeagain wrote: »

Thank you so much for your concern and everybody's advice (except for the poster who says I am 'unkind' - just what I needed to hear). In any event, we went to the interview and my daughter was distraught. All her plans and ambitions up in smoke. They had the careers officer there (probably as a witness more than anything!) They were patronising and came up with some poor advice (e.g. 'how exciting, you can get a driver's licence now if you can pass your theory') Oh my word. In brief they tried to convince my daughter to go down the apprenticeship route as most of you have suggested which I would have liked her to do but she is refusing saying that there is no point, she is stupid and done with trying to beg for an education. I can see her point somewhat. I even asked if she could re-sit level 2 but they said 'there is no funding'. I believe this could be done just to get her self-confidence back. However she does not want to, is determined to be independent and refusing to consider anything else but getting a job. There is no convincing her and I think I'm going to have to accept it. I'm pleased to say that she ran her cv all over and managed to get the job she wanted in a restaurant and has worked every shift available in her determination and in this short space of time. So there we have it. No qualifications and a life of working in restaurants. I suppose its not the worst and I have heard stories of success in this field who knows. I just wanted the best for her, she hasn't had an easy start (her father died when she was a baby). For my own peace of mind I am still pursuing answers and especially an apology. My sister in law has called for an investigation not only because its personal but she says she would hate the thought of another child suffering like this and feels it is her responsibility to investigate the issue. I have been advised to go to the local press and the MP, strangely enough my daughter agreed to this, which I didn't expect. Should I?

If you go to the local press your daughter will be humiliated, not the college. She can't do the course because she couldn't pass her GCSE at the required level - that is all anyone will remember.

I think you're beginning to take this a little too far. Your daughter isn't good enough for the course - nothing will change that and all you're doing is teaching your daughter that she is entitled to do things she wants to do regardless of the clearly expressed boundaries. You're doing her no favours.

74jax

I really really wouldn't go to the press.

The course had entry requirements. Your DD doesn't meet them so can't do the course.

Person_one

Homeownertobe wrote: »

Your daughter isn't good enough for the course - nothing will change that and all your doing is teaching your daughter that she is entitled to do things she wants to regardless of the clearly expressed boundaries. You're doing her no favours.

Hang on, that's unnecessarily harsh.

Lets not forget that the OP's daughter has achieved merits for the level 2, that's a comfortable pass, not the lowest grade, and a good achievement for somebody who finds study more challenging than others.

OP, I completely understand why you're upset and think its a real shame they won't let her even attempt level 3, but agree with others that taking time to re-focus, gather yourselves and look at the GCSE situation is the best bet now.

Good luck to her.

Homeownertobe

Person_one wrote: »

Hang on, that's unnecessarily harsh.

Lets not forget that the OP's daughter has achieved merits for the level 2, that's a comfortable pass, not the lowest grade, and a good achievement for somebody who finds study more challenging than others.

OP, I completely understand why you're upset and think its a real shame they won't let her even attempt level 3, but agree with others that taking time to re-focus, gather yourselves and look at the GCSE situation is the best bet now.

Good luck to her.

I don't think it is. She may well have achieved merits, but they require distinctions as well as a C at GCSE. The OP's daughter has failed to get a C on two separate occasions - should the college ignore that failure?

None of this revenge business is helping her daughter but some of it may harm her, and I can guarantee putting her daughter in the local press - forever - will do more harm than good.

carmina_piranha

Our college has a cabin, and runs a cabin crew course at night. I don't know what level it is, but this may be something for her to look at if available in your area, for next year if she can pass her English GCSE this year.

Did she get a D both times? Also, does she have any additional needs that haven't been supported during English lessons?