College informing my daughter she is a failure

74jax

Homeagain wrote: »

Thank you, I agree! However, as she has been 'chucked out of college' where do I go from here?

Just for that course though. You can see about re taking her English.

I interview many young people and only doing one year at college wouldn't bother me but I would look for a C in maths and English.

Andypandyboy

Being unable to complete the T&T course does not mean your daughter cannot do her GCSE's at that college. Core skills are handled by a dedicated department in most colleges. She could do English and Maths over a year and then look at her options once she has achieved them.

Homeagain

Sorry all, one more question - is there a difference between a BTEC qualification and a Diploma or are they the same thing?

peachyprice

Homeagain wrote: »

Thank you, in one way I expect you are right. No good getting apologies at this late stage, that's not going to get her anywhere. The thing is she so wants to complete this course and I believe she can, with help - this will be a whole year wasted for her and she loves the course and wants to continue. I cannot convince her otherwise. I have made an appointment with the new lecturer (or head of department as this woman keeps reminding me) to discuss other options. She is not very pleasant either.

What grade did she actually get, was it a pass?

If she has passed there's no reason why she can't take the second year at another college, perhaps one that treats their students with a little more dignity.

GwylimT

There are several levels of BTEC diplomas, the link below explains.

http://www.brightknowledge.org/knowledge-bank/education-pathways/diplomas-nvqs-btecs/btecs-explained

Andypandyboy

Homeagain wrote: »

Sorry all, one more question - is there a difference between a BTEC qualification and a Diploma or are they the same thing?

The qualification is a BTEC Diploma in whatever, they have various levels- level 1/2/3 and extended diplomas. Which level was it?

Andypandyboy

peachyprice wrote: »

What grade did she actually get, was it a pass?

If she has passed there's no reason why she can't take the second year at another college, perhaps one that treats their students with a little more dignity.

Sorry, but that is not correct. To progresss onto the next level there are specific requirements and if a distinction in the level below is the criteria then it is unlikely any college will deviate from that unless there are extenuating circumstances, and even then these have to be put before a designated person for adjudication. These are BTEC rules.

RAS

This very very much depends on what sort of diploma?

Is this a BTEC/Edexcel National Diploma or Extended Diploma? A 90 credit Diploma?

Or [FONT=&quot]Level 3 Diploma or[/FONT] BTEC Specialist QCF Diploma[FONT=&quot]

See https://qualifications.pearson.com/en/qualifications.html

May do your head in but ..............

Also check https://www.ucas.com/ucas/undergraduate/getting-started/entry-requirements/tariff/tariff-tables as that give you some idea which course are considered "academic" and which purely vocational
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peachyprice

Andypandyboy wrote: »

Sorry, but that is not correct. To progresss onto the next level there are specific requirements and if a distinction in the level below is the criteria then it is unlikely any college will deviate from that unless there are extenuating circumstances, and even then these have to be put before a designated person for adjudication. These are BTEC rules.

Yes, it is correct. Not all colleges will demand a distinction to progress. OP's college didn't until they got a new HoD.

I've just looked at my local college and all BTEC level 3 courses require a merit at level 2, not distinction, exactly as OP's daughter was expecting.

Travel and Tourism: Level 3
Entry requirements
5 GCSEs at grade A*–C including English Language, OR Merit at an appropriate Level 2 Diploma, including English Language at grade A*–C.

thorsoak

Homeagain - I'm so sorry that your daughter has gone through all this, and who now feels absolutely humiliated by being chucked off this course because she has not reached the necessary standard.

However, and I do expect to be flamed for this, but do you not think that she might be aiming too high? If she was unable to attain even a grade D in English after an extra year's education, is she educationally able to pass this course? You say that "if she had help" she might manage it - but what about work? Would you expect her to be given assistance in a job?

Maybe you (and she) are aiming too high. Not everybody is academically endowed to pass exams - but I'll bet that she is extremely capable of other things.

Good luck for her future - maybe not academical/office based - but just keep on supporting her.