Why do some cyclists use the entire lane, use fog horns, and flashing lights?????????

wealdroam

trinidadone wrote: »

Back to the original posting, I saw three teenagers on bikes today, riding shot gun next to one another another, and they were getting a vast amount of abuse from other road users.

One teen was on his phone, the other listening to music, and the third seem to be looking into the sky. all three were peddling very slowly (normal walking distance)

Was this in the Notting Hill Carnival, where you have been all day today?

They probably couldn't cycle very fast.

esuhl

trinidadone wrote: »

Back to the original posting, I saw three teenagers on bikes today, riding shot gun next to one another another, and they were getting a vast amount of abuse from other road users.

One teen was on his phone, the other listening to music, and the third seem to be looking into the sky. all three were peddling very slowly (normal walking distance)

Heh. A few days ago, I saw a motorist come out of the pub, get into his car, crash into a lamp post, knocking it over, and wheelspin from side-to-side up the road.

And two pedestrians killed another pedestrian not far from me earlier in the week.

Why is it nearly always pedestrians who punch each other in the face, eh? No wonder pedestrians are looked down upon...

Norman_Castle

trinidadone wrote: »

Back to the original posting, I saw three teenagers on bikes today, riding shot gun next to one another another, and they were getting a vast amount of abuse from other road users.

One teen was on his phone, the other listening to music, and the third seem to be looking into the sky. all three were peddling very slowly (normal walking distance)

You seem very keen to find faults with cyclists. Is there a point you would like to make or is this just a new hobby for you?. Have you been inconvenienced by cyclists?.

peter_the_piper

Flashing lights are ok, helps us miss them. Fog horns ok unless cyclist is on the pavement with pedestrians. Cycling in the middle of the lane is ok on some roads, down a single track country lane is asking for trouble.

brat

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Flashing lights are ok, helps us miss them. Fog horns ok unless cyclist is on the pavement with pedestrians. Cycling in the middle of the lane is ok on some roads, down a single track country lane is asking for trouble.

That's not true.

Much of my cycling is on winding rural roads of 5 metres or less. It's very important to be visible on these roads, and that requires you to be in whatever position offers you the best view both to see and be seen. I'm often well to the offside of a road if it allows me a better view round a left hander. I'm only ever tucked into a secondary position if a vehicle is passing, or if I'm on a right hand bend.

If a vehicle wishes to pass, I will control when and where that can happen by riding in a position to prevent an overtake if it has the potential to be risky to me. Once I deem it safe, I will adopt a secondary position to allow the motorist past, with a wave of thanks to acknowledge his/her patience.

anchovypizza

I am a cyclist myself, off road and time trial. But I am noticing what a fascist movement cyclists are becoming in many cases.
It's fantastic the popularity of cycling in recent years, but I think a lot more needs to be done to make it safer and educate cyclists that treating motorists as the bad guy 100% of the time is not fair.

Coming home on Friday in rush of a country road I had a 20 plus group of club cyclists taking up the whole lane for several miles while a long car jam built up behind. You could sense the anger of many of the motorists as they finally found one by one a window to overtake as the over revved to show their anger, not help by a few of the cyclists giving the finger.

Worse one was a few months ago when a cyclist who was obviously in the zone and being timed shot out into a busy road without even looking, causing a car to brake, he just carried like nothing had happened.

I am just amazed that their are not more deaths in the UK. We live in a busy and over populated country where so many people are being pressured, rightly or wrongly. Many cyclists need to drop the attitude a little.

custardy

anchovypizza wrote: »

I am a cyclist myself, off road and time trial. But I am noticing what a fascist movement cyclists are becoming in many cases.
It's fantastic the popularity of cycling in recent years, but I think a lot more needs to be done to make it safer and educate cyclists that treating motorists as the bad guy 100% of the time is not fair.

Coming home on Friday in rush of a country road I had a 20 plus group of club cyclists taking up the whole lane for several miles while a long car jam built up behind. You could sense the anger of many of the motorists as they finally found one by one a window to overtake as the over revved to show their anger, not help by a few of the cyclists giving the finger.

Worse one was a few months ago when a cyclist who was obviously in the zone and being timed shot out into a busy road without even looking, causing a car to brake, he just carried like nothing had happened.

I am just amazed that their are not more deaths in the UK. We live in a busy and over populated country where so many people are being pressured, rightly or wrongly. Many cyclists need to drop the attitude a little.

Which group of cyclists are you educating?

Marco_Panettone

anchovypizza wrote: »

I am a cyclist myself, off road and time trial. But I am noticing what a fascist movement cyclists are becoming in many cases.
It's fantastic the popularity of cycling in recent years, but I think a lot more needs to be done to make it safer and educate cyclists that treating motorists as the bad guy 100% of the time is not fair.

Coming home on Friday in rush of a country road I had a 20 plus group of club cyclists taking up the whole lane for several miles while a long car jam built up behind. You could sense the anger of many of the motorists as they finally found one by one a window to overtake as the over revved to show their anger, not help by a few of the cyclists giving the finger.

Worse one was a few months ago when a cyclist who was obviously in the zone and being timed shot out into a busy road without even looking, causing a car to brake, he just carried like nothing had happened.

I am just amazed that their are not more deaths in the UK. We live in a busy and over populated country where so many people are being pressured, rightly or wrongly. Many cyclists need to drop the attitude a little.

It's easier to "drop the attitude" when you don't feel like your personal safety is being put at risk for someone else's convenience.


The motorist certainly isn't 'the bad guy 100% of the time', but it doesn't take being a 'bad guy' to cause massive harm to someone else when you're in control of a car. People make mistakes and misjudge things. When you make mistakes on a bike it is MASSIVELY unlikely for someone (including yourself) to be killed. When someone in a car does similar the risk of death and injury to others is multiplied.


Everyone does need to chill out, but there's a pretty good reason why some people on bikes can't.

esuhl

anchovypizza wrote: »

I am a cyclist myself, off road and time trial. But I am noticing what a fascist movement cyclists are becoming in many cases.

That's funny. The only selfishly aggressive, red-in-the-face, belligerent superiority that I notice on the roads seems to come from motorists.

As cycling continues to become more popular, I've noticed a set of drivers positioning themselves as fascist anti-cyclists. I don't think I've ever heard of a cyclist who (genuinely) hates all car drivers, but you do get motorists who say they hate cyclists.

brat

anchovypizza wrote: »

I am just amazed that their are not more deaths in the UK. We live in a busy and over populated country where so many people are being pressured, rightly or wrongly. Many cyclists need to drop the attitude a little.

If people are amazed that more cyclists are not involved in collisions, it's usually because they misread a cyclist's behaviour as incompetent, when actually the cyclist is much more aware and alert than s/he is given credit for. After all, they are the ones most likely to suffer.