Corbynomics: A Dystopia

MumOf2

My sister was at Glastonbury with a group of friends. They went along to see the Kaiser Chiefs only to find that Corbyn et al were still spouting their nonsense on stage. Plenty of people around them were heckling and booing him. They could hear the booing all around and were shocked to see it being reported that Corbyn was welcomed with unalloyed rapture as this was far from the truth.


MumOf2

setmefree2

Labour lost the election because Jeremy Corbyn ignored the working-class voter

There is a reason why Labour went backwards in working-class areas like S!!!!horpe and Grimsby and lost the mining town of Mansfield, whilst winning Kensington and Canterbury. This is because Corbyn appealed to liberal students and angry remainers.

If Labour were truly about ‘freedom in being able to get where you want to be’, whether university or vocational, then they would not have neglected Us — the white working-class northern labour voters. The average resident in S!!!!horpe is poorer than in Kensington and with that comes a different set of fears and concerns. The neglected have seen their towns transformed by uncontrolled immigration, whilst their wages were being undercut. The neglected have seen their chance of social mobility diminish, as more and more schools closed or were forced into special measures by Ofsted. The neglected have seen benefits cut, and their dreams of owning a house destroyed.
These neglected voters had no voice. Labour, under Ed Miliband, ignored them and sadly so did Jeremy Corbyn. Vote Leave listened and thus won.

Corbyn’s anti-establishment rhetoric was appealing, but unfortunately not aimed in the right direction. Instead, Labour defends the liberal remainers. The cries of the working class fall on deaf ears. A valuable lesson in politics is that those who have been silenced can be the most dangerous, and the working class showed this last June in the EU Referendum.
There is a reason why Labour lost the election, because they didn’t attract the support of the neglected and angry working-class voter. Collective responsibility? When will someone take responsibility for S!!!!horpe, Mansfield and many more — ?

https://www.shoutoutuk.org/2017/06/27/kinnok/

setmefree2

MumOf2 wrote: »

My sister was at Glastonbury with a group of friends. They went along to see the Kaiser Chiefs only to find that Corbyn et al were still spouting their nonsense on stage. Plenty of people around them were heckling and booing him. They could hear the booing all around and were shocked to see it being reported that Corbyn was welcomed with unalloyed rapture as this was far from the truth.


MumOf2

Interesting.

I found this.

Mr Corbyn was not without his dissenters among the large crowd, with some boos heard during the speech and small pockets of the audience walking away towards the end.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40394095

MumOf2

setmefree2 wrote: »

Interesting.

I found this.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40394095

Thanks for the link. Excellent - at least one reporter told it as it was. More than 'some' boos and 'small' pockets as far as they could tell, though...

Fella

MumOf2 wrote: »

Thanks for the link. Excellent - at least one reporter told it as it was. More than 'some' boos and 'small' pockets as far as they could tell, though...

You can bet fortunes that Momentum would have been there in force too, to add to the illusion of Corbyn-worship (does anybody seriously believe that a pukka concert-goer would take a "we love Corbyn" banner.....seriously?).

This is an increasing and insidious trend with Momentum. Pepper the crowd of stuff like Glastonbury or more serious things such as marches with a handful of rabid Corbyn-lovers screaming their head off & it not only has an effect on the mood of the crowd (people are not inclined to voice dissent against a braying mob) but also on the coverage of the event.

You could see this with the footage of McDonnell's disgraceful speech at Glastonbury. On initial viewing you might think his remarks are receiving a lot of applause. Watch closer & you see it's actually just the front row of a few people who loudly bray & clap every statement. The rest of the crown behind them pretty much stays unmoved.

Nasty stuff.

Cakeguts

That Momentum thing worries me because it seems to be a club for bullies. I assume that Momentum was responsible for all the Social Media bullying that went on during the election. I suppose the rest of us are just going to have to get used to adult bullies?

Spidernick

setmefree2 wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40394095

Mr Corbyn was not without his dissenters among the large crowd, with some boos heard during the speech and small pockets of the audience walking away.

From the 'biased' BBC? Who'd have thunk it?! People will still spout that rubbish, however much it's shown to be nonsense. Hey ho!

setmefree2

Olivier Letwin - tax "the many" to pay for public sector.

Former head of policy for David Cameron believes people are willing to see taxes go up to fund NHS and social care

said he believed most people were prepared to see a modest rise in tax bills in order to fund investment in public services, but stopped short of saying that should mean an end to the public sector pay cap. “It may well be, in one way or another, a large number of people will have to pay a little more tax if we are going to maintain the trend towards reduced deficits and yet spend a little more on the crucial public services that do need more spent on them,” the MP said.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/28/oliver-letwin-government-tax-rises-public-services-nhs

There is a clear consensus that these services are under real pressure. All the politicians who contested the last election will have encountered that feeling on countless doorsteps.

On the Conservative benches there is also a consensus that, notwithstanding Corbyn’s fantasy manifesto, the nation cannot afford to abandon the deficit reduction programme — that provides our only insurance policy against the effects of an economic downturn. So the question will be what taxes to raise in order to finance the additional spending without increases in borrowing.


There is much at stake. Big issues to consider. But you have to raise your eyes from the Queen’s Speech to see them.

http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/oliver-letwin-this-is-no-time-to-be-getting-bogged-down-with-new-laws-a3575701.html

Thrugelmir

There's a difference between increasing the funding for the public sector and paying more to those that work in the public sector more money. I'd have no objection to contributing more for improved services. Providing it was part of an overall reform. With a high degree of accountability. As to the use of the additional funding. Such as the opening of new specialist regional treatment centres. Which is the operational model in Germany.

setmefree2

Spidernick wrote: »

From the 'biased' BBC? Who'd have thunk it?! People will still spout that rubbish, however much it's shown to be nonsense. Hey ho!

Culture minister Matt Hancock says the BBC’s coverage of Jeremy Corbyn’s appearance at Glastonbury missed a key moment — when the Labour leader was booed. Hancock, pictured, who was at Worthy Farm in his wellies, wasn’t at the Pyramid Stage for Corbyn’s speech but observed that the BBC didn’t tell the story as he heard it.
“It was a load of b*****ks — Corbyn got booed but of course the BBC didn’t write it up,” he told The Londoner at Bell Pottinger’s Summer Party in Lancaster House last night.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londoners-diary/londoners-diary-matt-hancock-says-bbc-were-too-kind-to-corbyn-a3575751.html