Corbynomics: A Dystopia

System

Cakeguts wrote: »

There won't be any left to support him soon. About time he resigned and retired.

Do you really want a labour leader who is able to unite his party and better able to convince the electorate he/ she is PM material?

Really?

Cakeguts

Does anyone know how the brainwashing that has led to the really nasty posts from Labour supporters started? Some of the posts I have been getting on social media read as if they are from IS or the Moonys. It is the same sort of rhetoric as the old US cults or the modern terrorists. Basically there is only one true leader and we are the followers and all the rest of you have been misled, misinformed, believed what was written in right leaning media, and you don't know what you are talking about.

I can only assume that it has been spread by social media but I think it is a worrying trend that people are not open to different opinions, don't debate and generally just sling mud if challenged. It feels as if they have been brainwashed because they all repeat the same things. So from several different people you will hear exactly the same comment with little or no variation. They will not accept a view that is different from what they keep repeating. I feel that someone somewhere has been doing an awful lot of manipulating. I am learning all the time about different view points but their's never alter to the extent that I could actually write down what they are going to say before they say it because it all reads the same as if someone has told them all what to say and they are saying it.

Matt_L

ilovehouses wrote: »

Do you really want a labour leader who is able to unite his party and better able to convince the electorate he/ she is PM material?

Really?

Unite his party?? 50 of his members have just defied him and he's as convincing as Jordon Brown...

He produced a manifesto that promised the world to everyone against that of the Tories same old same old and still he couldn't bribe enough people...:rotfl:

System

Matt_L wrote: »

Unite his party?? 50 of his members have just defied him and he's as convincing as Jordon Brown...

He produced a manifesto that promised the world to everyone against that of the Tories same old same old and still he couldn't bribe enough people...:rotfl:

Exactly, he's bloody hopeless.

A decent labour leader would've made mincemeat of May. Shouldn't Tory supporters therefore be rejoicing that Corbyn is labour leader?

The irony is that if anyone but Corbyn had been labour leader there wouldn't have been a GE and the Tories would be sitting pretty with a nice majority.

Sapphire

Cakeguts wrote: »

I can only assume that it has been spread by social media but I think it is a worrying trend that people are not open to different opinions, don't debate and generally just sling mud if challenged. It feels as if they have been brainwashed because they all repeat the same things. So from several different people you will hear exactly the same comment with little or no variation. They will not accept a view that is different from what they keep repeating. I feel that someone somewhere has been doing an awful lot of manipulating. I am learning all the time about different view points but their's never alter to the extent that I could actually write down what they are going to say before they say it because it all reads the same as if someone has told them all what to say and they are saying it.

Agree. My gut feeling is that there is a great deal of money behind all this (one can easily guess who is financing it), with schills being used to spread the 'viewpoints' you mention.

Cakeguts

Sapphire wrote: »

Agree. My gut feeling is that there is a great deal of money behind all this (one can easily guess who is financing it), with schills being used to spread the 'viewpoints' you mention.

I would agree about the schills. Social media would be a good way to do this kind of thing. The whole thing worries me because it undermines democracy. You can't say that this was normal political advertising because it was there to manipulate people and it worked. Some of the people whose posts I have blocked are so brainwashed that they can't see what is under their noses. One person said to me that Armed Forces Day was just one of many armed forces days throughout the year and that Glastonbury was a good place for Corbyn to be to reach more people. That didn't make sense because I felt sure that there would be more people in Liverpool than at Glastonbury but it showed that the person making the comment had done it without thinking it through. How did they think that there was more than one Armed Forces Day? It all sounds as if they are repeating this rubbish without thinking it through. I am sure that these comments have been planted in the minds of gullible people. In fact a friend mentioned today that he couldn't remember there being so many gullible people as there appear to be now in connection with the election so it is noticable that some extensive manipulation of certain sections of the population has gone on.

Moby

Cakeguts wrote: »

I would agree about the schills. Social media would be a good way to do this kind of thing. The whole thing worries me because it undermines democracy. You can't say that this was normal political advertising because it was there to manipulate people and it worked. Some of the people whose posts I have blocked are so brainwashed that they can't see what is under their noses. One person said to me that Armed Forces Day was just one of many armed forces days throughout the year and that Glastonbury was a good place for Corbyn to be to reach more people. That didn't make sense because I felt sure that there would be more people in Liverpool than at Glastonbury but it showed that the person making the comment had done it without thinking it through. How did they think that there was more than one Armed Forces Day? It all sounds as if they are repeating this rubbish without thinking it through. I am sure that these comments have been planted in the minds of gullible people. In fact a friend mentioned today that he couldn't remember there being so many gullible people as there appear to be now in connection with the election so it is noticable that some extensive manipulation of certain sections of the population has gone on.

What a joke the tories wingeing about the media and people not thinking things through and being gullible. Are these the same people who read the Sun and the Mail I wonder!

On another note the British Lions crowd are chanting Ohh Jeremy Corbyn! Brilliant stuff:)

posh*spice

Moby wrote: »

On another note the British Lions crowd are chanting Ohh Jeremy Corbyn! Brilliant stuff:)

12 years since Labour won an election - I've no idea why that is brilliant? Unless you're secretly a Tory

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

It's as if some people have already forgotten the fright they got just a few weeks ago.

Shaking people out of their complacent slumbers is no bad thing. Explaining why a particular course of action is necessary is no bad thing. Enables full and proper grown up debate. Rather than this pathetic trial by media. Where every word and action is overly scrutinised by interviewers and commentators. Good policy often evolves over a period of time. After much discussion and input from a variety of viewpoints. Not made on the hoof by single point policies. Which lack any cohesion. More simply brought into play to disrupt and make news headlines for a few days.

setmefree2

Glastonbury Festival accused of exploiting hundreds of European workers on zero hours contracts

Exclusive: A week after Jeremy Corbyn spoke about workers' rights on the Pyramid Stage, people who travelled to Worthy Farm from Poland, Spain and the Czech Republic are laid off en masse

hired hundreds of workers from across Europe on zero hours contracts and then fired them after just two days, The Independent can reveal. Organisers were accused of taking advantage of some 700 people who were signed up as litter pickers expecting two weeks of paid employment after the acts and festival-goers had gone home, only to leave some three quarters stranded and out of pocket in the Somerset countryside.
It comes one week after Jeremy Corbyn's high-profile appearance on the festival's Pyramid Stage with organiser Michael Eavis, in which the Labour leader received rapturous applause for saying young people need not "accept low wages and insecurity as just part of life".
Workers had travelled to Somerset from countries including Czech Republic, Spain, Poland and Latvia after being handed zero hours contracts to help with the large-scale clean-up operation on Worthy Farm.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/hundreds-of-european-workers-fired-two-days-into-glastonbury-clean-up-a7818571.html