Corbynomics: A Dystopia

westernpromise

davomcdave wrote: »

This is spot on IMHO.

Labour under Corbyn is neither Brexit or Remain. The single biggest political issue in the country at the moment and Labour manage to be both for Brexit in the eyes of Remainers and for Remain in the eyes of Brexiteers, !!!!!!.

The only thing that Labour seem to have to fight on is the NHS now.

If you want a decent health service you need a decent economy that generates the wealth needed to pay for one. Labour falls at the very first hurdle because every Labour government wrecks the economy.

Beyond that, as scandals like Mid-Staffs show, Labour cannot be trusted with the NHS because what Labour stands for is the producer interest in the NHS, absolutely not the interests of patients. This is why they brought back filthy Dickensian workhouses, where the poor and elderly die of thirst, or hunger, or of a disease they didn't have when they went in. The money borrowed to be poured into the NHS went largely into the pockets of their unionised payroll vote. Patients? Fvck 'em.

davomcdave

mrginge wrote: »

It's ironic that a court case which was meant to put the govt under scrutiny and make their life more difficult has actually had a much bigger (negative) impact on the opposition.

Regardless of my position on Brexit the Government has played a brilliant hand on dealing with the aftermath, it's politically beautiful in a way we haven't seen since the first Blair Government IMHO.

What can Corbyn do now? I suppose he gets to discuss Brexit with his good friends from Hamas because that's what the people of Redcar want him to be doing I guess.

westernpromise

Does Corbyn, in his laudable aim of talking to all sides, also talk to the BNP, or UKIP, or Hasidic Jewish associations?

Or do you only count as "all sides" if you want to commit random murder in a western-aligned country?

antrobus

westernpromise wrote: »

.. The money borrowed to be poured into the NHS went largely into the pockets of their unionised payroll vote. Patients? Fvck 'em.

There is some evidence to support that allegation. Such as;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4920692.stm

And doctors are indeed 'unionised'. Athough they are not affiliated to Labour, and I have no idea of who doctors tend to vote for.

Thrugelmir

davomcdave wrote: »

Regardless of my position on Brexit the Government has played a brilliant hand on dealing with the aftermath, it's politically beautiful in a way we haven't seen since the first Blair Government IMHO.

Let's hope Mrs May hasn't made a devils pact with somebody in the Cabinet.

mrginge

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Let's hope Mrs May hasn't made a devils pact with somebody in the Cabinet.

Ooh you old cynic lol

davomcdave

So the Tories won Copeland at a bit of a stroll. I expect it to make zero difference to the Momentum airheads.

chris_m

davomcdave wrote: »

So the Tories won Copeland at a bit of a stroll. I expect it to make zero difference to the Momentum airheads.

I wouldn't be surprised to see excuses like "We didn't really want it because the constituency is going under the boundary changes so we'll get it back by default in three years"
:rotfl:

antrobus

I would guess that Labour will console themselves that they countered the threat of UKIP in Stoke on Trent Central, but losing Copeland is a bit of a disaster. I mean, an opposition party losing a seat to the government in a by-election on a 6.7% swing? That's humiliating. It's historic.

davomcdave wrote: »

So the Tories won Copeland at a bit of a stroll. I expect it to make zero difference to the Momentum airheads.

I suspect that, had UKIP prevailed in Stoke, then even the airheads might have panicked at the prospect of UKIP eating up those northern urban seats.

As it is, one could say that this is exactly what the Conservatives wanted. Anything that encourages Corbyn to keep going until 2020 can only be a good thing from their point of view.

martinsurrey

antrobus wrote: »

As it is, one could say that this is exactly what the Conservatives wanted. Anything that encourages Corbyn to keep going until 2020 can only be a good thing from their point of view.

Exactly, keeping a limping Corbyn until 2020 when, as well as a lame leader, the boundaries get re done, we should see a massive con swing.

Although, as 2017 showed, expect the unexpected, and who knows whats going to happen before then!