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Corbynomics: A Dystopia
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chewmylegoff wrote: »Isn't Corbyn a Boomer sitting on massive unearned housing equity that he has accumulated at the expense of the younger generations?
Yes, but he is trying to make amends.0 -
ruggedtoast wrote: »Yes, but he is trying to make amends.
noboby is accountatble for their race, their sexuality, their nationality, their DNA or their age
but they are responsible for their suppport for terrorist organisations that killed children, pregnant women, women and men.
Their apologist walk in their shoes0 -
but I'm sure you could make a joke of it.
Him and his terrorist mates did give Manchester (next big city along from me, let's ignore Bradford) a big regeneration opportunity and their huge bomb didn't kill anyone, despite their best efforts.I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0 -
Every cloudLeft is never right but I always am.0
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gadgetmind wrote: »Him and his terrorist mates did give Manchester (next big city along from me, let's ignore Bradford) a big regeneration opportunity and their huge bomb didn't kill anyone, despite their best efforts.
people in birmingham, warrington, brighton, omagh etc weren't so lucky but I'm sure toxic toastie could produce a nice little poster about it0 -
Thrugelmir wrote: »Union membership has been in progressive decline for decades. The world started to change a long time ago. I used to belong to the ASTMS and was indeed a Union Rep. At least Clive Jenkins was a moderate that foresaw the impact of technology (the PC was then not a commercial product). Along with many others I left the Union due to the extreme politics that overpowered the discussion at local level.
Moderate? He was a member of the Communist Party in his early career:)Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
ruggedtoast wrote: »That's interesting because secure employment has been in progressive decline for decades, I wonder what the connection is.
Regardless of your own experiences in the ASTMS in the 80s, for many people joining the labour market now, union membership is their best and only chance at representation to their employers.
Their rights aren't going to be represented by the government, because their employers are paying off the government to ensure they have as few rights as possible.
I agree, but union membership is still in decline. The problem is that many people cannot see the benefits of union membership. There are benefits but often people do not appreciate them. Even many union members view unions as a body that they expect to do things for them (as if they were buying a service). Unions will only grow again if people think of them as truly representing them.
The leadership and representatives have some responsibility for this. Quite rightly, the days of full time union officials have mostly gone outside of the public sector, and are now being eliminated there.Again though, this just appears to be another case of the baby boomers who have benefited enormously from unionised jobs and protected employment during their own careers, who now cry bureaucracy and inefficiency when the younger versions of them ask for the same thing, when entering the job market now.
The boomers have been the slowest to desert unions. Unions are declining because young people do not see any point in joining them.Which is also the problem with the PLP. Like most mainstream politicians, they are only used to representing baby boomers. Their politics doeesn't work for younger people and they are unable to respond to the change in demand, which is why they / you are so upset by Corbyn.
You have gone from speaking sense at the start to nonsense at the end.
What you are saying is that young people are abandoning democracy. The only way to effect change is to use the system to your advantage. That means convincing others your arguments have merit. It means you persuading those who do not agree with you that change needs to happen. Anything else is jumping up and down on the sidelines (what you might call doing a Corbyn)
Tell me, isn't Corbyn a boomer?Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
people in birmingham, warrington, brighton, omagh etc weren't so lucky but I'm sure toxic toastie could produce a nice little poster about it
You can keep carping, but Corbyn is on the up, whereas you my friend, will remain moribund, encased in an impenetrable block of Claptonite.0 -
I agree, but union membership is still in decline. The problem is that many people cannot see the benefits of union membership. There are benefits but often people do not appreciate them. Even many union members view unions as a body that they expect to do things for them (as if they were buying a service). Unions will only grow again if people think of them as truly representing them.
The leadership and representatives have some responsibility for this. Quite rightly, the days of full time union officials have mostly gone outside of the public sector, and are now being eliminated there.
The boomers have been the slowest to desert unions. Unions are declining because young people do not see any point in joining them.
You have gone from speaking sense at the start to nonsense at the end.
What you are saying is that young people are abandoning democracy. The only way to effect change is to use the system to your advantage. That means convincing others your arguments have merit. It means you persuading those who do not agree with you that change needs to happen. Anything else is jumping up and down on the sidelines (what you might call doing a Corbyn)
Tell me, isn't Corbyn a boomer?
Many young people can't join the unions, even if they wanted to.
Most grads are entering low wage insecure employment for which there isn't a union for them to join.
Its the generations that went before who are enjoying the kind of jobs that have unionised workforces.
Polls show that people like Corbn, and thats in spite of a relentless campaign of propaanda against him from the Tory owned press.
118,000 new Labour members in 11 days to help see off the coup. The man is a national treasure and the British people are coming together to preserve him. But of course no one will ever vote for him...0 -
people in birmingham, warrington, brighton, omagh etc weren't so lucky but I'm sure toxic toastie could produce a nice little poster about it
It's the left wing way; you can't make omelettes without killing and oppressing huge numbers of innocent victims.
But it's for their own good, and they are dying for a cause. Admittedly not their cause, but dead is dead, and causes are causes, so that's OK.I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.
Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.0
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