Win 10 and Ccleaner - Issue

50Twuncle

MSE was poor on XP wasn't it ?

Double_V

50Twuncle wrote: »

MSE was poor on XP wasn't it ?

NO!
It performed great.

I always used Norton. But when Microsoft introduced and my Norton subscription expired I moved onto MSE to try.

And I loved it, it protected me from all harms.
And since then I have always used and recommended MSE.

As long as you don't go onto killer sites and download dodgy warez you are fine.

50Twuncle

Double_V wrote: »

As long as you don't go onto killer sites and download dodgy warez you are fine.

Surely - that's when you need protection ?

JJ_Egan

50Twuncle wrote: »

I have used AVG for 10+ years and have never had any problems with it
What is the current best free alternative ?

No idea i pay for Kaspersky .
Recent tests show Avast free s the best of the free .

MSE is basically Windows Defender .

Most av products will trap 90% of the bad stuff .
Saying well i have been lucky and used the worst program but never caught anything is one way .
Reading long term results of AV testing is to my mind a better way of comparing .
http://www.av-comparatives.org/awards-statistics/

Is what i use and look for multiple long term Advanced + ratings

RumRat

JJ_Egan wrote: »

No idea i pay for Kaspersky .
Recent tests show Avast free s the best of the free .

MSE is basically Windows Defender .

Most av products will trap 90% of the bad stuff .
Saying well i have been lucky and used the worst program but never caught anything is one way .
Reading long term results of AV testing is to my mind a better way of comparing .
http://www.av-comparatives.org/awards-statistics/

Is what i use and look for multiple long term Advanced + ratings

Which is one of the reasons I moved to Bitdefender from Avast. I also find it the least intrusive product, quietly working in the background. I'm using the paid for version now (which I got for free on an offer) and if I can't repeat the offer, will probably pay for the 2016 version..;)

spud17

RumRat wrote: »

Which is one of the reasons I moved to Bitdefender from Avast. I also find it the least intrusive product, quietly working in the background. I'm using the paid for version now (which I got for free on an offer) and if I can't repeat the offer, will probably pay for the 2016 version..;)

+1

Free Bitdefender all the way. it even runs on a spare XP pc that I keep for old times sake.
Avast has become too big for it's boots, always trying to sneak in new things, Chrome (hate it), Grime Fighter, the Home Network Scanner.
One small niggle, Bitdefender, doesn't like one of the Key finder programs I have stored.
I tell it to ignore, but every time a backup runs, it quarantines it.

Fightsback

Double_V wrote: »

Windows 10 doesn't need any antivirus or cleaners.
As long as you don't download warez, play online games. You are fine.
It's got built in defender.

Oh really:

https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/MS15-091


PS don't forget to run as a standard user and not admin

Iain_L

Fightsback wrote: »

Oh really:

https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/MS15-091


PS don't forget to run as a standard user and not admin

And your point is what exactly?

A vulnerability was found, an update produced and Windows 10 installed that update automatically, thus closing that particular doorway as soon as it could.

bsod

the reg cleaner element has always left stuff, depending on the machine, you can run it many times in succession and it will find things that it didn't find 2 seconds ago

the point was, I guess, that every windows operating system is full of holes for virus writer to get their toes into, which is why it gets patched to death from day one until the day it dies.

It's foolish to assume that

no antivirus is needed
that mse is anywhere near the best choice of antivirus or the fastest
and that the only place infections come from are warez sites

avast isn't the least bit intrusive, the messages/prompts/audio have always been configurable and sticky, as are the bundled extra's and the chrome tick (annoying though that is, they have to make money somehow)

Terry98

bsod wrote: »

avast isn't the least bit intrusive, the messages/prompts/audio have always been configurable, as are the bundled extra's and the chrome tick (annoying though that is, they have to make money somehow)

It's the advertising pop ups I don't like and they don't give you the option of disabling them unless you have the paid for version but as you say they have got to make money some how.