Speed limits - people who ignore them

Strider590

These average speed morons are the reason I only drive the kit car after 7pm on weekends. I tried 5pm the other week, on a 30 mile run of mostly 60mph roads, I averaged 35mph.

Heading down one straight section at 60, a BMW 1 series pulled out RIGHT in front of me, which wouldn't have been so bad if they'd not then settled at 38mph, queue lots of heavy braking and one locked wheel which probably now resembles a 50p piece. Followed then for 3 miles doing 35-40mph, then got to a 30 zone where they carried on at that same speed.

lazer

i drive 20 mile on a nsl road for my daily commute. however it is a very bendy, very twisty road and my commute generally takes 40 - 45 mins.

Often get stuck behind tractors, lorries etc. My pet hate is cars that pass from behind me as soon as we hit one of the few straight patches in the road.

ChumLee

Strider590 wrote: »

These average speed morons are the reason I only drive the kit car after 7pm on weekends. I tried 5pm the other week, on a 30 mile run of mostly 60mph roads, I averaged 35mph.

Heading down one straight section at 60, a BMW 1 series pulled out RIGHT in front of me, which wouldn't have been so bad if they'd not then settled at 38mph, queue lots of heavy braking and one locked wheel which probably now resembles a 50p piece. Followed then for 3 miles doing 35-40mph, then got to a 30 zone where they carried on at that same speed.

Well if it wasn't really a problem why did you feel the need to lock up? Maybe a bit of adjustment to your driving style is in order.

rich13348

ChumLee wrote: »

Well if it wasn't really a problem why did you feel the need to lock up? Maybe a bit of adjustment to your driving style is in order.

I assume he expected the 1 series to accelerate to a point where he would not have to brake heavily but when it became evident that the 1 series was staying around 40 he had to slow down rapidly or risk ploughing into the back of him. I was of the opinion that you should not pull out on to another road if it was going to force a driver on that road to alter their speed or trajectory.

Strider590

ChumLee wrote: »

Well if it wasn't really a problem why did you feel the need to lock up? Maybe a bit of adjustment to your driving style is in order.

The speed differential was a problem, the fact the drive pulled out directly in front of a faster moving vehicle and then dithered about and half that vehicles speed. Combine this with a car that weighs less than 500kg, fitted with competition brake discs/pads and has no ABS and your going to lock at least one wheel up the second you hit a minor bump in the road.....

The braking forces this thing can produce would scare the living cr4p out of most people. In fact I've contemplated an anti-tailgating sticker for the back, to read "If I stop, you won't".

bazster

rich13348 wrote: »

I was of the opinion that you should not pull out on to another road if it was going to force a driver on that road to alter their speed or trajectory.

Indeed.


On a slightly different subject I've noticed a worrying trend recently with respect to roundabouts. Where a small or mini roundabout has a major road entering it and then exiting on the other side (i.e. the major road goes "straight over" the roundabout in everyday parlance), and also has minor roads entering, some ignorant drivers on the major road treat the roundabout as a place where they have right of way and they approach without slowing and with no intention of stopping i.e. they either don't know or don't care that they are obliged to give way to vehicles already on the roundabout.

On a number of occasions lately I've arrived at such a roundabout on one of the minor roads and been obliged to wait because I can see a vehicle approaching along the major road at such a speed that he will not be able to stop if I enter the roundabout (even though, having arrived at the roundabout first, I'm perfectly entitled to enter it and to expect the other vehicle to then give way).

mcpitman

ChumLee wrote: »

Well if it wasn't really a problem why did you feel the need to lock up? Maybe a bit of adjustment to your driving style is in order.

Can you, or have you ever driven a car on a real road?

You drivel based comments, seem antagonistic at best, and from nearly every comment you have made you appear to be a 12 yr old forum troll.

Or is this a matter of darkness (again)?

mcpitman

Strider590 wrote: »

The speed differential was a problem, the fact the drive pulled out directly in front of a faster moving vehicle and then dithered about and half that vehicles speed. Combine this with a car that weighs less than 500kg, fitted with competition brake discs/pads and has no ABS and your going to lock at least one wheel up the second you hit a minor bump in the road.....

The braking forces this thing can produce would scare the living cr4p out of most people. In fact I've contemplated an anti-tailgating sticker for the back, to read "If I stop, you won't".

I feel your pain, and also have had that exact sticker on an older car of mine (heavily modified S1 rs turbo with 320mm wilwood 4 pots).

I have no issue with people "pulling out on me" as long as they make some effort to get to the flowing spped of traffic.

ChumLee

mcpitman wrote: »

Can you, or have you ever driven a car on a real road?

You drivel based comments, seem antagonistic at best, and from nearly every comment you have made you appear to be a 12 yr old forum troll.

Or is this a matter of darkness (again)?

Yes thanks.

gilbert_and_sullivan

I'd be interested to see how a light vehicle with massive brakes for its weight can stop any quicker than a lesser vehicle, equipped with ABS on the point of lock up, but without locking, on all 4 wheels.
Though it might feel faster braking, if the wheels are locking it won't be.
Are there different physics at work here.

My now quite old Merc coupe is the fastest braking car i've ever owned, it has large (but not blinged/labelled/red/yellow look at meeee) 4 pot front calipers, and 2 pot opposed rear calipers, it has a working well ABS but too old to have electronic brake force distribution, however for its type it is very light compared to the lardy modern cars that replace it.

Now i can brake from almost any speed on the point of lock up in any conditions, but without locking up due to the ABS.

Other more advanced systems will be able to stop faster i have no doubt due to better/faster electronics on the brakes and suspension..

Please explain how a car without ABS and firm suspension can stop faster, lighter pedal effort yes maybe we've all driven overservoed cars and boy are they horrid things, often so called warm hatches,

But there are only and ever will only be 4 footprints of rubber on the road, the choice of rubber will and does make a huge difference as anyone with an ounce of common sense knows, but how pray given similar levels of grip can one car at the point of lock stop any qucker than another, assuming the contact surface areas of the tyres in ratio to overall weight is similar and tyre quality the same?

I don't want an argument, and i don't need anyone telling me i haven't driven a real car so wouldn't know, pub bore comments unwelcome, this is a genuine question.