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Had a mortgage too long - it's going, going, gone!

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  • Ali-OK
    Ali-OK Posts: 4,073 Forumite
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    Thanks Hidden - you're a star for crunching those :A

    I've come up with similar figures I think - based on new interest being £114.70 lower p/m x 60 = £6,882 saving - so that'd make it a £1,300 real term saving after ERC charges and £305 after product charge. Plus further interest saved from ongoing OPs. Not a huge amount in it but not a loss either which is good news.

    The only bit of criteria I don't fit is lenders have put up income requirements for I/O (min £50-75k salary), plus I think rates will be higher in 2 years time...so seems an opportune moment given everything else.

    I'm doing the staying up late and waking up early - 4 hrs sleep last night.

    Hope you get an earlier night, after seeing the New Year in though!
    Back on the DFW Wagon:

    CC - £3,300 on 0% til 04/2020
    CC - £4,500 on 0% til 02/2019
    Loan - £12,063.84 as at 4/1/18
  • I lost you!! And it just shows how long I have been gone!!

    Missed you and your ordered updates... not to mention epic overpayments! Looks like life is treating you well enough. I hope Christmas and New year were fab. Heres to a fab 2016 with health and wealth top of the list.

    xxxx

    A black belt only covers 2 inches of your a$$ - You have to cover the rest yourself - Royce Gracie
  • shangaijimmy
    shangaijimmy Posts: 3,803 Forumite
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    All sounds like your working your way through a plan of attack. Our fix is up March 2017, so im hoping rates will stay the same for 12 months so i can jump onto a 3-5yr fix. A 5yr fix would really give me a target to finish, but hey ho there's a fair way to go before we get to the end of this fix!
    MFW: Was: £136,000.......Now: £47,736.58......
  • Ali-OK
    Ali-OK Posts: 4,073 Forumite
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    I lost you!! And it just shows how long I have been gone!!

    Missed you and your ordered updates... not to mention epic overpayments! Looks like life is treating you well enough. I hope Christmas and New year were fab. Heres to a fab 2016 with health and wealth top of the list.

    xxxx

    Hi Lilty :wave:

    Lovely to hear from you and hope you had a great Christmas with Jelly and hope family are well too.

    2015 flew by and who'd have thought I'd be in Year 3 of ridding myself of the mortgage millstone :cool:

    All the best for 2016 too and I'll be checking into your diary for your updates too :)
    All sounds like your working your way through a plan of attack. Our fix is up March 2017, so im hoping rates will stay the same for 12 months so i can jump onto a 3-5yr fix. A 5yr fix would really give me a target to finish, but hey ho there's a fair way to go before we get to the end of this fix!

    It's a guessing game and minefield! I'm going on mortgage market and rule changes, so another 5 yr fix now will put me in a better position overall with the added 3 yrs at 2.34% (compared to 2 left at the mo). Should leave me needing a 2 yr fix after that, then SVR to finish off and a savings lump sum thrown at it :)

    Piece of cake! :rotfl:
    Back on the DFW Wagon:

    CC - £3,300 on 0% til 04/2020
    CC - £4,500 on 0% til 02/2019
    Loan - £12,063.84 as at 4/1/18
  • Skinnylatte
    Skinnylatte Posts: 1,244 Forumite
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    These posts are all a bit technical for me at the moment, I have so much to learn!!
    Pay off Car Loan £17,047 £10580 by Christmas 2022

    Mortgage 1 @ 23/03/2019 [STRIKE]£101297[/STRIKE]
    £84457 16.6% DI [STRIKE]£6.95[/STRIKE] £6.15
    Mortgage 2 @ 12/04/2015 [STRIKE]£136121[/STRIKE]
    £100,546 26.1
    % DI [STRIKE]£9.13[/STRIKE] £6.07
    1st LBM 02/06/2013 £[STRIKE]21595[/STRIKE] Debt Free Day 27/03/2015

  • Ali-OK
    Ali-OK Posts: 4,073 Forumite
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    News from my lender is they have offered me:

    5 yr fix at 2.59% I/O, Expiry 2nd March 2021 no booking fee or

    7 yr fix at 3.19% I/O, Expiry 2nd March 2023, also no booking fee

    Have to pay the ERC upfront but they are discounting that by 20% so £4,465 (rather than £5,581.25) of my savings will be paying for that and mortgage balance won't go up.

    Costs/savings:

    5 yr I/O £240.92 - saving £1,674.80 over 60 months after ERC charges

    7 yr I/O £296.73 - costing £1,673.80 more over 60 months after ERC.

    Paperwork on it's way to me for the 5 yr fix but have 14 days to change my mind :). Tricky decision as the 7 yr one was tempting as still 0.5% cheaper than my current 3.69% rate and rates should be much higher at that time...but who knows.

    Thoughts anyone?
    Back on the DFW Wagon:

    CC - £3,300 on 0% til 04/2020
    CC - £4,500 on 0% til 02/2019
    Loan - £12,063.84 as at 4/1/18
  • patanne
    patanne Posts: 1,286 Forumite
    edited 2 January 2016 at 11:50AM
    Just a thought, but have you tried working out the difference it would make taking into account any overpayments you are hoping to make (realistically). That should reduce your LTV and maybe the rate of your next fix.

    Do you intend to keep to your current mortgage payment amount or will you lower it to what you have to pay?
  • hiddenshadow
    hiddenshadow Posts: 2,525 Forumite
    patanne wrote: »
    Just a thought, but have you tried working out the difference it would make taking into account any overpayments you are hoping to make (realistically). That should reduce your LTV and maybe the rate of your next fix.

    ^ this

    We already locked in our rate but with a spreadsheet that handles multiple rates and timeframes, it was easy to see how much (or little) a different rate would save us when it counted OPs. You should get more accurate numbers with a full amortization schedule, which might help determine a clear winner.

    If it were me, I'd go with the 7-year fix if I knew I'd get it paid off in those 7 years, just to have the payments/interest known for the remainder of the mortgage. If not, I'd go with the 5-year and take advantage of the lower rate. (That's just gut feeling, though, I'd also run the spreadsheet numbers to make sure they agree ;))
  • Luckyinlife
    Luckyinlife Posts: 1,613 Forumite
    Personally i would go for the 5 year fix and hope that rates are under 3% when it comes to renew

    Im sure with your LTV you can get the best rates around tho maby even worth looking around at other banks you have ?

    I was in the same situation tho
    Had a rate of 6.4% wanted to change badly payed 2k to get out of it saved myself 2k a year even after paying the fees

    Is it any cheaper to go for a repayment mortgage ? to get a better rate

    least you have 2 great options tho which will save you money which is the main aim of the game
    Mortgage--- [STRIKE]£67700 March 15[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]£65221 April 15[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]£64983 July 15[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]£64780 sept 15[/STRIKE] Remortgage [STRIKE]£67295 oct 15[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]£66599 Nov 15[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]£65878.73 Dec 15[/STRIKE][STRIKE] £64834 1st Jan 16[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]Feb 16 £64,511.89[/STRIKE][STRIKE] March 16 £64,056.40[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]April 16 £62550[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]May 16 £62,396.20[/STRIKE] Feb 17 £60.800
    Emergency fund 23k
  • Ali-OK
    Ali-OK Posts: 4,073 Forumite
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    Thanks Patanne - good idea to look at that.

    Had a quick play with comparing repayment mortgages at the durations and rates, both with same SVR at the end and the 5 yr one comes out about £1k cheaper. But SVR is likely to rise. Still a guessing game!

    LTV is nice and low now at 36% (on lender figures) and 40.05% on my (what I think is) more realistic figure - and their min LTV for best rates is 60%, so am well below that.

    I don't think I'd get a better interest rate unless I change deals to a Repayment mortgage and I don't really want to do that as I'll get stifled by 10% max OP ceiling when I'm just coming to a position where I should start to go over that - I/O has a 20% ceiling and a bit more flex (albeit £500 min OPs).

    I think it comes down to do I want the security of 7 years or 5 (or even 8 as they can offer me one of those!) but at the increased cost of 0.5% on 7.
    Back on the DFW Wagon:

    CC - £3,300 on 0% til 04/2020
    CC - £4,500 on 0% til 02/2019
    Loan - £12,063.84 as at 4/1/18
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