Concrete over the greenbelt. Generation Rent is at breaking point

CLAPTON

I guess the building economics is that
-it takes the same land for a 2 bed bungalow as a 4 bed house
-the build cost of a 2 story place is only 50% more than a one story place

but of course the selling price is determined by supply and demand in that particular neighbourhood.

remorseless

lessonlearned wrote: »

Bungalows will always be the most popular option for retirees - with a garden, private parking or garage, maybe a shed or conservator, none of which you would get with a flat.

Out of curiosity - as it's defo a preference I suppose... why is it the popular option? For retirees, are we talking 65/67 young or much later in life (late 80s/90)?

I couldn't think of anything worse than being in a bungalow, a small flat with a lift with a winter garden maybe...I am too urban!

What about bungalows in more affordable locations? or is that also a no-no?

missyrichards

Some people buy bungalows so they can build a new larger house because the plot sizes are often so generous.

I'm not that old but I would like to live in a bungalow. I think it would be nice to live on one level.:D

ukcarper

remorseless wrote: »

Out of curiosity - as it's defo a preference I suppose... why is it the popular option? For retirees, are we talking 65/67 young or much later in life (late 80s/90)?

I couldn't think of anything worse than being in a bungalow, a small flat with a lift with a winter garden maybe...I am too urban!

What about bungalows in more affordable locations? or is that also a no-no?

What do you do in a flat if you have stuff that you need store securely that can't be bought into flat. Some people enjoy gardening.

ukcarper

CLAPTON wrote: »

I guess the building economics is that
-it takes the same land for a 2 bed bungalow as a 4 bed house
-the build cost of a 2 story place is only 50% more than a one story place

but of course the selling price is determined by supply and demand in that particular neighbourhood.

I can see the economics of why bungalows aren't built but if you want to encourage older people to move and free up larger properties you have to give them what they want.

ukcarper

cells wrote: »

Maybe its pensioners in 4 bed homes who want/need to sell and buy a bungalow who are setting the price by bidding the maximum they have which is the money from their 4 bed house sales

Probably true but that would indicate there is a shortage.

ruggedtoast

I find the idea of people mouldering away alone in large properties terribly sad.

I believe all retirees should be given the opportunity to live in lively communities where they can also perform useful jobs for their communities.

Things like making lunches for younger workers. Childcare. Cleaning, and basic car maintenance. Doing the shopping run for young families. Baby sitting. And gardening for those who are at work during the day.

These are all things they could do that they would enjoy. And these quotidian needs being fulfilled would go a long way toward redressing the grievance of the young being robbed of housing.

Mistermeaner

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I find the idea of people mouldering away alone in large properties terribly sad.

I believe all retirees should be given the opportunity to live in lively communities where they can also perform useful jobs for their communities.

Things like making lunches for younger workers. Childcare. Cleaning, and basic car maintenance. Doing the shopping run for young families. Baby sitting. And gardening for those who are at work during the day.

These are all things they could do that they would enjoy. And these quotidian needs being fulfilled would go a long way toward redressing the grievance of the young being robbed of housing.

Awesome - I realise now my plan for execution of the elderly was too short sighted; enslavement is the way forward.

I was thinking along some similarish lines the other day regards socialists - before being allowed to vote socialist you must first of all donate all your material wealth to the state and do at least 40 hrs a week unpaid work.

Only then can you tell others how much tax they should pay

CLAPTON

ukcarper wrote: »

I can see the economics of why bungalows aren't built but if you want to encourage older people to move and free up larger properties you have to give them what they want.

I don't think the reason that bungalows aren't built is to do with the economics
but rather with planning targets

ukcarper

CLAPTON wrote: »

I don't think the reason that bungalows aren't built is to do with the economics
but rather with planning targets

Yea I expect planning density has a impact but left to their own devices builders will build the most profitable properties.