Concrete over the greenbelt. Generation Rent is at breaking point

ukcarper

Mistermeaner wrote: »

You are concerned about others? You have the means to help?

Then do something

Give your house away to a young family or let them live with you - their ability to afford it is limited only by what you would ask from them in return.

You wouldn't do that so why should I, you must be earning more than £80k so perhaps you could help someone less fortunate.

Mistermeaner

I have not called anyone selfish.

Am I not already helping others through my taxes and by limiting my occupancy to just what I need?

I'm doing this at great cost and sacrifice to myself in time away from my home and boy, and paying alot for childcare for the privilege.

Yet you call me selfish?

I ask again what are you doing?

ukcarper

Paying my tax, making sure my kids are alright up until recently caring for elderly parent. Not wishing harm on another generation.

remorseless

it's just different lifestyles I guess.

I also couldn't think of anything worse than being on a large house when old (assume 2 people) for very little reason.
More likely far from services (shops) and care, to maintain (water the garden, tend the garden) and heat up in winter.

I also agree that elderly could feel better integrated with society with helping cooking a meal to minding kids. Social isolation in elderly it's a huge problem in today's society, less seen in other cultures where elderly live longer and better because they feel valued and included.

It goes together with other threads about childcare (and lack of grandparents to mind the kids for whichever reason) expectations of kids leaving the nest soon, etc - interesting (for me) to see that even within the UK, not everyone seems to be on the same page.

Each to their own, appreciate the diversity...

remorseless

Mistermeaner wrote: »

My 2 person family lives in a 2 bed house. I pay over 2500 a month in tax and claim nothing, I don't even use the nhs (private health and dental)

don't you use roads, internet, infrastructure, etc.?

I thought the point of paying taxes was to support the country (naively) to keep it up and running.

I also don't claim anything, but I rather not look at it that way! I understand that for some, the tax system is a bit of a lottery win but feel lucky you're in the position where you don't need to claim!

"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help." - President Reagan

Imagine how terrifying would be rely on the state alone for your wellbeing!

ukcarper

remorseless wrote: »

it's just different lifestyles I guess.

I also couldn't think of anything worse than being on a large house when old (assume 2 people) for very little reason.
More likely far from services (shops) and care, to maintain (water the garden, tend the garden) and heat up in winter.

I also agree that elderly could feel better integrated with society with helping cooking a meal to minding kids. Social isolation in elderly it's a huge problem in today's society, less seen in other cultures where elderly live longer and better because they feel valued and included.

It goes together with other threads about childcare (and lack of grandparents to mind the kids for whichever reason) expectations of kids leaving the nest soon, etc - interesting (for me) to see that even within the UK, not everyone seems to be on the same page.

Each to their own, appreciate the diversity...

It all depends on how fit you are, a lot of people are not that old when their children leave home and don't want to settle down with pipe and slippers. I have considered a flat but I can't find one with the outside storage I need.

I agree it's great that we are not all the same.

Mistermeaner

I just find it ironic that in a thread talking about the difficulties of having enough housing there is a person rattlidg round in a 4 bed house with the gall to call others selfish.

Cornucopia

Mistermeaner wrote: »

I just find it ironic that in a thread talking about the difficulties of having enough housing there is a person rattlidg round in a 4 bed house with the gall to call others selfish.

You don't consider it relevant that the person has legal entitlement to said house, probably earned it one way or another?

I think it's somewhat hypocritical for people who (presumably) are opposed to the "bedroom tax" as it applies to public sector housing seem to be all too keen to invent something similar to impose upon the private sector.

And finally, one house more or less is literally nothing against the scale of housing need in the UK, so there's really very little point in making it personal.

remorseless

Cornucopia wrote: »

And finally, one house more or less is literally nothing against the scale of housing need in the UK, so there's really very little point in making it personal.

TBH - I thought the UK has a shortage of affordable housing.
Expensive ones, there seem to be aplenty to choose from!

ukcarper

Mistermeaner wrote: »

I just find it ironic that in a thread talking about the difficulties of having enough housing there is a person rattlidg round in a 4 bed house with the gall to call others selfish.

Perhaps if you and one or two others didn't post threads having digs at older people all the time then we wouldn't respond, you may say there in jest but I'm not sure they are and my tongue in check response certainly seems to missed your sense of humour completely.