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Neighbours blocking shared Access-way - no dropped Kerb

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  • rich13348
    rich13348 Posts: 840 Forumite
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    I would be tempted to clean that up if I lived where you lived but then I would think again and chuck it all over the wall so it sits right in front of their front door. Or side door whichever they use more. Or spread equally.
  • Trebor16
    Trebor16 Posts: 3,061 Forumite
    ChumLee wrote: »
    Please get someone to read it to you. We were talking about parking across the parking space on the ROAD, although you don't even know what one is or where it starts and finishes.

    I know what a road is and where it starts and finishes, but you on the other hand haven't got a scooby. First you blathered on about causing unnecessary obstruction, now you have swung completely the other way with your "it's a civil matter, the police won't be interested".

    If you think you do know what a road is then give us your definition. But I won't be holding my breath.
    Chumlee wrote:
    Sorry mate I don't live in a village. I bet you were a traffic warden before Blair made you redundant.

    Now, who is the one who needs to read things properly. I said it was on your CV. You are well wide of the mark about my previous employment, a bit like your opinions spouted in this thread.
    "You should know not to believe everything in media & polls by now !"


    John539 2-12-14 Post 15030
  • ChumLee
    ChumLee Posts: 749 Forumite
    Trebor16 wrote: »
    I know what a road is and where it starts and finishes, but you on the other hand haven't got a scooby. First you blathered on about causing unnecessary obstruction, now you have swung completely the other way with your "it's a civil matter, the police won't be interested".

    If you think you do know what a road is then give us your definition. But I won't be holding my breath.



    Now, who is the one who needs to read things properly. I said it was on your CV. You are well wide of the mark about my previous employment, a bit like your opinions spouted in this thread.

    Re read my friend and you'll see the occupation and use of the land is civil. Obstructing the exit from it onto the road is not.
  • makara
    makara Posts: 525 Forumite
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    rich13348 wrote: »
    I would be tempted to clean that up if I lived where you lived but then I would think again and chuck it all over the wall so it sits right in front of their front door. Or side door whichever they use more. Or spread equally.


    What's useful is that after stopping this once for a few months (the instant the Police contacted them about it) - they started again directly after the next Airport Scam.


    In a way, they're hanging themselves - as the more they keep doing it, the more I have to add to my Photos log.
  • Have you tried looking on sites where the car parking space could be listed? I'm sure on sites such as https://www.justpark.com/rent-a-parking-space/ there must be terms and conditions which the person letting out the space must abide by. If you can find the listing, look for the terms and conditions and then contact the company about any breech of these conditions asking for their listing to be removed.
  • makara
    makara Posts: 525 Forumite
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    craig1123 wrote: »
    Have you tried looking on sites where the car parking space could be listed? I'm sure on sites such as https://www.justpark.com/rent-a-parking-space/ there must be terms and conditions which the person letting out the space must abide by. If you can find the listing, look for the terms and conditions and then contact the company about any breech of these conditions asking for their listing to be removed.


    Yes, I did look through a few such sites - no one on our Road is advertising.

    Which is not to say the Neighbours don't have some sort of cash-in-hand arrangement with "friends"...
  • photome
    photome Posts: 16,659 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Bake Off Boss!
    Thread now been going 2 weeks plus, what have you done about it? Or have I missed that
  • staple28
    staple28 Posts: 175 Forumite
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    Yes what was the outcome please OP, have you done anything about this?
  • harz99
    harz99 Posts: 3,719 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Home Insurance Hacker!
    Well, he's still posting on another thread, so he hasn't been done over by his neighbour! Nothing done/happened I guess.
  • makara
    makara Posts: 525 Forumite
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    edited 22 October 2015 at 8:01PM
    Hi, All

    Sorry for the long absence on this thread - other matters needed to be dealt with, but I went to a Solicitor today.

    He immediately asked -

    "What is at the other end of the Access-way...?".

    We told him it terminated in PEDESTRIAN gates to both properties' back gardens.

    His response was (after he looked at the wording of our Deeds) that no one is allowed to park there - and that prior to engaging his (paid) services, we need to send a letter to both the Landlord and the Tenant.

    When I explained I don't know where the Landlords now live, he said to send 2 copies to the Tenant - telling him he must forward one to the Landlord - and to address everything as "Landlord / Tenant".

    He said a Dropped Kerb doesn't matter - what matters is what is at the other end of the Access-way.

    He also said we are not allowed to install a Parking Bollard - as in effect we would be denying our Neighbours "Right of Way".

    Here is my draft of the letter - is this ok? Any reasonable suggestions welcomed (except from Trolls)!

    ++++

    (To the Tenant at # 25 - we are sending you by Recorded Delivery TWO identical copies of this letter. One copy is for your notice and action - and the other copy you need to pass on to your Landlord for their notice and action)


    From -

    The Landlord
    # 23

    To -

    The Landlord / Tenant
    # 25


    Re: Use of shared Access-way between # 23 and # 25


    Dear Sirs,

    Upon consultation with Solicitors, we are bringing to your attention three points that need to be addressed and actioned by both the Landlord and the Tenant of # 25 -


    1) The current occupiers of # 25 have for the last two years, i.e. since October 2013 been parking vehicles (both their own vehicles - and vehicles belonging to their friends and relatives) on the shared Access-way between both properties mentioned above.

    For example - a vehicle has been left by the Tenant in the Access-way for 5 months at a time (October 2013 to March 2014) -and for 6 weeks (mid-October 2014 to late-November 2014) - and the pattern has repeated for similar time-frames on other subsequent occasions.

    We have attached to this letter a photograph of a white Nissan vehicle - which was left for over two weeks in the Access-way in July 2015, while the owner (who is a friend of the Tenant at # 25) went on Holiday. It completely blocked our "Right of Way", as can very clearly be seen in the photograph.

    The Access-way does NOT lead on to car-parking garages for either of the two properties, but terminates in a Wall and a Fence - which are Pedestrian ONLY gates.

    Since the Access-way is a "Right of Way" - parking any vehicle for any amount of time on it is effectively a "Trespass" , since a vehicle impedes us from being able to pass and re-pass, i.e. denying us "Right of Way".

    All Parking of vehicles on it must cease immediately.

    ++++

    2) The current occupiers of # 25 are continually leaving Rubbish sacks in the Access-way PRIOR to the night before collections are due (i.e. prior to Sundays).

    This has resulted in animals, namely Foxes and Rats and Birds and Cats tearing open their Rubbish sacks, leaving contamination all over the Access-way - including on our side of it.

    We have also seen Foxes taking the contents of those Rubbish sacks and jumping into OUR back garden with the rubbish.

    We have attached a photograph to this letter - showing just one example of this frequent issue, of which there have been many.


    Since this is an Environmental and Health hazard, you must stop leaving Rubbish in the Access-way prior to the day before it is due to be collected.

    ++++

    3) The current occupiers of # 25 have sometimes been hanging their dirty rags over OUR side of the Back-garden fence that serves as a Boundary between both properties.

    This is again "Trespass" - and must cease.

    ++++

    We require your (both Landlord's and Tenant's) assurances in Writing to our address that all the above points will be acknowledged and acted upon by yourselves.

    No verbal dialogue will be entered into regarding these matters.


    If we do not receive your Written confirmations that you both acknowledge and will action the above points within 14 days from the date of your receipt of these Recorded Delivery letters, then we will be consulting further with Solicitors - to bring an Injunction against you via a County Court.
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