We're being forced to work extra 4 hrs on a sunday!

Conor_3

Voyager2002 wrote: »

I'm puzzled by this query. Doing a degree requires all the time and effort that you can give it: at least 60 hours per week. A student should not have the time to do a part-time job, and in any case not have the time to spend the money earned.

You are kidding aren't you? My brother did a degree in business studies and had enough time to do a fulltime call centre job albeit on evenings and weekends. Even when my other brother did a law degree, he managed a part time job.

Some courses do have a high attendance requirement, such as engineering courses. My daughter is going to Coventry to do a Nursing degree and she's not going to have any time to do a part time job as the hours are all over the shop an around 40 a week.

Conor_3

grey_lady wrote: »

To be more helpful faerie girl, tell your manager you cant do it as it makes you to tired for college the next day,

I'm sorry but if finishing work at 9pm, getting home around 11pm and then getting up at 8am the following morning makes you too tired for a 6hr day at college in your late teens/early 20's, you need to go see a doctor because there's something wrong with you.

Many students are up until the early hours of Monday morning regardless.

dmg24

Conor wrote: »

I'm sorry but if finishing work at 9pm, getting home around 11pm and then getting up at 8am the following morning makes you too tired for a 6hr day at college in your late teens/early 20's, you need to go see a doctor because there's something wrong with you.

Agreed, and that is coming from someone who does have a medical condition that would cause such a problem. However, for a one off, I am sure I could muster up the energy from somewhere, I would just make sure I made up the sleep on the Saturday and Monday nights.

I have no problems with students, I am a postgrad myself, but I do remember my undergrad studies (not that the OP is an undergrad), and there is no way I studied for anywhere near 40 hours a week!

I don't see how this is an anti student thread, it is simply people telling the OP to get real!

ohreally

grey_lady wrote: »

Whoever suggested she contacted her union - what year do you think this is when teenage trainee hairdressers working part-time in a supermarket have the oppotunity to join one.

Post #1 "I am considering asking USDAW".

xlt_hunter

dmg24 wrote: »

ceriden,

Conor is correct. In certain industries the Working Time Directive is not applicable, and haulage is one of those industries.

Wrong, driving jobs are subjected to the WTD of max 48 hour week on average over a referance period of 13/14 weeks. Some weeks you can do 35 hours and other 55hours... but to do 80+ you must be working in driving for the sheer love and also illegal ! I am sure the traffic comissoner would like to see you in their office to throw the book at you.

Sod it OP - life and family is more important than work!

faerie_girl

Although I had previously said I was not going to comment on this subject again I feel compelled to. I did not realize that me not wanting to work extra on a Sunday would create so much interest and such coments

Voyager2002
“I'm puzzled by this query. Doing a degree requires all the time and effort that you can give it: at least 60 hours per week. A student should not have the time to do a part-time job, and in any case not have the time to spend the money earned. If you can't manage on your student loan, seek help on this board. And if you feel like spending money, write an essay until the impulse has passed!”

If you would have read any of my previous posts you would know that I am not doing a degree. I am a level 2 Hairdressing student. As part of the course I do three full days in college and two full days in a salon at £3.50p/h and weekend at a supermarket.
I NEED to work at the weekend to be able to pay the rent, bill and to eat.
As far as I was aware probably about 95% of all things have a cost to them. It is not a case of ‘if I feel like spending’ more of a ‘must spend’

grey_lady
Thanks for some of your comments. I do some family members hair which I refuse to take money payment for as I am not qualified yet and I feel I do not have the full skills at the moment. My gran cooks me tea when I do her’ hair and my mum pays me in eggs and veg my dad has grown lol

However I don’t understand this comment “Whoever suggested she contacted her union - what year do you think this is when teenage trainee hairdressers working part-time in a supermarket have the oppotunity to join one”

I suggested maybe I should contact my union. I had the opportunity to join one when I joined the company.
P.S Im a 20

Conor – “I'm sorry but if finishing work at 9pm, getting home around 11pm and then getting up at 8am the following morning makes you too tired for a 6hr day at college in your late teens/early 20's, you need to go see a doctor because there's something wrong with you.
Many students are up until the early hours of Monday morning regardless.”

Conor I am sorry if I have touched a raw nerve with you. I obviously have.

I do find it strange that you think you know my schedule. Although only a few hours difference to get it correct - when It is term time I get up at 7am, college is between 7 and 8 hrs. My placement is 9hours. 9hours Saturday, 6hours Sunday plus travel.

Feel free to add these details to the profile you are compliling of me. I am also 5ft 4 brown hair, size 5 shoe.

And yes this does make me tired. Not that it matters to anybody but me I do have ‘something wrong with me’ which means I am always tired. If I get a day off i can sleep for about 20 hours.

I think you may have an issue with students, people ‘down south’ and people who do not want to be slaves to work.

dmg24 – I do not need to ‘get real’ people seem to have issue that I don’t want to work extra. Morrisons is not the be all and end all of my life, I will never let it be.

If people WANT to work in a supermarket/retail that is good for them. If you enjoy that fine. I do this because I need the money and at the mo being a junior at my placement doesn’t give me enough.

For the folks that are interested… As of yet I haven’t contacted USDAW or taken it any further with management. So far Supervisors/manager haven’t asked any further about the stocktake and which date I [strike]will[/strike] won't be doing. They know I don’t want to do it, maybe they will get someone else who does.

The staff hand book is the contract although I had to sign a ‘contract of hours’ form before going home to read the handbook.


Ah another one from conor
“Perhaps if the OP finds doing a normal days work beyond them, they should pack the job and the college course in and consider a life on the dole.”

I am more than entitled to HB, CTB, IB but as I manage on what I get I don’t get any. I do not need the tax payers money. But hey if you want to give a bit extra feel free to send a cheque.

Regards, Faerie

Conor_3

xlt_hunter wrote: »

Wrong, driving jobs are subjected to the WTD of max 48 hour week on average over a referance period of 13/14 weeks. Some weeks you can do 35 hours and other 55hours... but to do 80+ you must be working in driving for the sheer love and also illegal ! I am sure the traffic comissoner would like to see you in their office to throw the book at you.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

It's 48 hours WORK averaged over either A 17 OR 26 week reference period.

NOT EVERYTHING IS CLASSED AS WORK. Periods of Availability, which are where you aren't working but may be required to take up work, such as waiting on a loading bay, ARE NOT COUNTED TOWARDS THE 48HRS. Neither are tachograph breaks, of which you can have 1.5hrs worth a day. So you can actually do a 15hr day, record 1.5hrs of it as rest and another 10hrs as PoA and only 3.5hrs actually count towards that 48hr weekly total.

You can LEGALLY do an 84 hour working week consisting of 3x15hr duty periods (can reduce daily rest to 9hrs per day up to 3 times a week) and 3x13hr duty periods leaving sufficient time for a reduced weekly rest.

There is no book throwing to be done as the law is being complied with. If you're going to accuse me of breaking the law, make sure you don't show yourself up as a muppet without even a basic grasp of the rudimentaries.