We're being forced to work extra 4 hrs on a sunday!

faerie_girl

Conor wrote: »

Aww poor diddums. Finishing at 9, getting home at 11pm and only having 10hrs at home until you start college. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? I work in a job where you regularly do up to 15 hrs a day, only getting 9hrs off INCLUDING the time it takes you to get home and back to work. For many people who commute, they get 10 hours or less at home. In my new job, it's 12 hr shifts and an hours travelling each way so I'll get 10hrs at home every working day.

How long it takes you to get home is not their problem.

Welcome to the real world. Get used to it.

Well, I am sorry if i have offended people, obviously I have as many of you are been a bit harsh.

I was only asking for advice and also wanted a rant.

I don't particularly like sitting on a checkout all weekend, serving the same type of customers.

I am not a uni just a FE college, three days at college two days work experience. and my weekend job. DO NOT SAY TO ME I AM HARD DONE BY. You may find that I do I god damn lot of work towards my future so i am not in a supermarket all day.

We CHOSE to work our contracted hours, because we can. We work the minimum we have to - for our rent, bills etc. I don't work 40 odd hours a week because i don't need to. we pay our stuff and some left over to treat ourselves.

I DO NOT FEEL HARD DONE BY. I just don't like my job, nor the way management treat everyone. There is a line in the hand book saying 'you will have do what the company requires you to do' If GM needed his a**wiping i'm sure he would bring this line up... they all do for everything that i shouldn't have to do really.

I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SHOW 'GOOD WILL' they have never shown an ounce of goodwill to me

I NEVER ASK TO FINISH SHIFTS EARLY OR CHANGE THEM ABOUT - I signed up to the hours i wanted to do, and which the company agreed to also.

I work on the checkouts, my job title is checkout operator but i regularly do other things, such as facing up on the shop floor, working in the deli, cleaning the toilets. Things I can't be forced to do, but i do them because i am nice.


I have tried applying for jobs closer but I live in quite a small town, not many jobs available.

I am training to be a hairdresser, because that is what i want to do. When i am doing 40 hrs a week i wont complain that i'm in a crap job... as that is what i want to do.

People seem to assume that because I referred to myself as a 'student' most people thought that i do **** all most days, that i can't be bothered to work and earn the pennies. well i can, and i do, other wise i'd be living on the streets.

I am actually very annoyed by some peoples posts, i wanted advice not slating for being a student. Or for having a rant. In future I just won't bother.

Obviously I am in the wrong here for thinking all these things about my job. I should just get on with it and shut my gob.

Again sorry for offending people in my 1st post and also this post.

Gob shut....

Regards, Faerie x

dmg24

I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SHOW 'GOOD WILL' they have never shown an ounce of goodwill to me

Faerie,

You earn goodwill. Sadly it is a fact of life that employees have to earn goodwill from their employer before it is reciprocated.

If you take the above attitude towards people at work you will inevitably run into problems, in this employment and in the future.

People are not slating you, they are simply saying (in a variety of ways!) that this is the real world, and we can't always do what we want.

Kevicho

dmg24 wrote: »

People are not slating you, they are simply saying (in a variety of ways!) that this is the real world, and we can't always do what we want.

To be honest from what ive read the OP has been slated, and am not surprised she came back on and defended herself.

I agree with Lynz on this one, check your contract, if it states you have to do one a year, then you have to do it, likewise if it doesn't mention it then you are under no obligation.

I think to be honest though you are a bit optimistic in thinking a large company would treat any of its employees in a way that benefits the employee over the company, labour is cheap and there are plenty or replacements out there so they know this.

Sometimes we all do jobs we hate, its life, and until we all have a fair share of wealth as opposed to the few controlling the money then this is the state of affairs.

Hapless_2

When I was a part timer we had to be in the store at 7am for sale prep, when we had new merchandising instructions often I never got home until 10pm. Just because I had a baby never made any difference, I was contracted for 20 hrs and those 20 hrs I chose. BUT in my contract and handbook was the clause, "staff are expected to work overtime as and when the business pattern requires it"

I work on the checkouts, my job title is checkout operator but i regularly do other things, such as facing up on the shop floor, working in the deli, cleaning the toilets. Things I can't be forced to do, but i do them because i am nice.

When I was a store manager I still had to clean the toilets and make the tea.

ZootHornRollo

faerie_girl wrote: »

I work on the checkouts, my job title is checkout operator but i regularly do other things, such as facing up on the shop floor, working in the deli, cleaning the toilets. Things I can't be forced to do, but i do them because i am nice.

i could be wrong but you will probably find your contract states you must carry out all reasonable and legal tasks you are asked to carry out.

faerie_girl wrote: »

People seem to assume that because I referred to myself as a 'student' most people thought that i do **** all most days, that i can't be bothered to work and earn the pennies. well i can, and i do, other wise i'd be living on the streets.

i do not think students do **** all most days, there are many of them who are very hardworking. there are some who go out of thier way to help out where they can and try to be flexable - and they get this reciprocated when they need a favour - and there are those who don't budge an inch when asked - the hard done by types who never get anything they ask for. i'm pretty sure that i am not the only member of a store management team who works this way. you get what you give.

have you tried asking to do the same amount of extra hours just abit earlier in the day???

faerie_girl

dmg24 - you think that I have done nothing to earn 'goodwill' for it to be recipricated. Another presumption. And obviously i do not say to the manager what i actually think of them... that is for the day i get a real job and walk out! lol

Kevicho wrote: »

To be honest from what ive read the OP has been slated, and am not surprised she came back on and defended herself.

I agree with Lynz on this one, check your contract, if it states you have to do one a year, then you have to do it, likewise if it doesn't mention it then you are under no obligation.

I think to be honest though you are a bit optimistic in thinking a large company would treat any of its employees in a way that benefits the employee over the company, labour is cheap and there are plenty or replacements out there so they know this.

Sometimes we all do jobs we hate, its life, and until we all have a fair share of wealth as opposed to the few controlling the money then this is the state of affairs.

Im not an optimist quite the opposite. Yes, as the previous Personelle manager told me after being literaly 5mins late 'we can replace you just like that *click with fingers*' And comments like that from managers are the reason i quite often hate my job.

I do things for the supervisors and managers that are not out of my way but what other people will flatly refuse. I am always coming up with suggests to supervisors to improve things. I am always polite to them. And i will do overtime to help them out every now and again. It is not as if i do not pull my weight and refuse everything they ask me. I am very hard working.

I know that there is nothing I can do, If i work somewhere else I'll get the same I know that.

I just wanted some advice on a situation but the majority of people slated me and straight away said I was in the wrong. They gave no contructive comments.

However, thank you for the few that did (in a polite way give advice)
- joughtib,barvid, c_ronaldo, snail's pace, zoothornrollo, green ninja, Kevicho, ceridwen

I am not going comment any further on this issue.

Faerie

Lakeuk

faerie_girl wrote: »

dmg24 - you think that I have done nothing to earn 'goodwill' for it to be recipricated. Another presumption. And obviously i do not say to the manager what i actually think of them... that is for the day i get a real job and walk out! lol

That probable won't be a wise move, I expect when you go for a "Real Job" you'll need a reference from a current employer.

First of worst case, can you afford to lose this job? If so then when they ask you to do it extra hours on a Sunday night say you can't as Sunday night is the only avaliable night you have to complete course work plus no public transport is available home

laura1976

Hey! I'm a 30 year old wife and mum and that Is my real job!:o If it's the same supermarket I work for we're told at induction that during busy periods ie Christmas, Easter etc we are expected to work our contracted hours plus 50%. I worked for them in one store before we moved here, then started at the local store here and was told both times so it's definitely part of the induction. Rules must be similar for all the big chains. I love the extra hours because it pays for the extra bits for the kids around those times. Anyway I've been thinking and have an idea that might help. Accept the hours and bung a mate with a car £10 to collect you from the store at 9. You and your partner will have earned an extra £60-70ish between you for 4 hours each on a sunday, you wouldn't have got home till nearly 7 if you left at normal time and this way you're home by 9.30 with a lovely fat pay packet at the end of the month to treat yourselves. I understand it's not ideal but it's not like it's every week so make the most of it.:D

Conor_3

GreenNinja wrote: »

Whatever the rules and regulations, I would agree that for students who are studying all week and working all weekend that their employer should have some kind of sympathy for them having to work until 9pm on a sunday evening, then having a 1hr 45 minute journey home.
Whats wrong with people these days? doesn't anybody care about anybody else anymore???
X

How long it takes the OP to get home isn't an employers problem. The OP knows how long it takes yet still took the job.

It's not about not caring about anyone else anymore, merely not pampering to those who whinge about stuff that the rest of the world just has to get on and do.

Conor_3

ceridwen wrote: »

faerie_girl

Dont take any account of Conor - I'm glad the abuse has been reported (saves me having to do so). I'd slap his wrists on your behalf if he was around to do so! Theres always one isnt there?

To quote (courtesy of MSE Martin):

"Pls be nice to all MoneySavers ... courtesy helps".

Just because some people are prepared to be exploited - doesnt mean you have to be.

I'd hardly call 4 hours extra now and again being exploited.

You should work in haulage. 15hr days, 84hr working weeks. All legal. Now that's exploitation.