Hyundai handbrake failure

Strider590

JP08 wrote: »

But alas not how people are taught. Youngest (and possibly dopiest !) sister got caught out after her Dad drove her car. She parks as taught, handbrake on and out of gear. He parked it as they have always parked their cars on their level drive for the last 40 years ... in gear and handbrake off.

It was a hot day, windows left open. Rather than get in the hot car she leant in through the window, inserted key, started car to get the air con going ... :eek:

I wouldn't leave a car parked without handbrake unless I had at least one wheel chock under it, this is actually how I leave my kitcar in the garage (but NOT in gear). On a normal car, used regularly, it's just silly to rely on the engine compression for a long period of time, but it's even more silly to start a car your not actually in control of.

roneik

Yes having half a forest full of wheel chocks guarantees survival of the driver if he conks out in the middle of nowhere. I mean who doesn't have a chainsaw kindling and a camping stove on-board when they set off to Tesco, for a bag of chocolate buttons and a family pack of laxatives anyway and so forth bejoizeus

roneik

Tomorrow I am setting out at dawn to chop down a tree, I don't care who owns the tree . I must have wheel chocks . I must have them . Do you understand it is imperative to my well being even and as well as.

Richard53

JP08 wrote: »

It was a hot day, windows left open. Rather than get in the hot car she leant in through the window, inserted key, started car to get the air con going ... :eek:

I suppose they don't teach the pre-starting gear-lever waggle any more either. Or do they? I genuinely don't know.

AdrianC

Richard53 wrote: »

I suppose they don't teach the pre-starting gear-lever waggle any more either. Or do they? I genuinely don't know.

Doesn't most modern stuff require the clutch pedal to be pressed for the starter to operate?

Astronaughtwannabe

AdrianC wrote: »

Doesn't most modern stuff require the clutch pedal to be pressed for the starter to operate?

Yes, but they are still taught to start in neutral. The exception is after a stall, providing it's restarted safely.


Some of the modern cars automatically restart after a stall providing the clutch is down.

Strider590

roneik wrote: »

Tomorrow I am setting out at dawn to chop down a tree, I don't care who owns the tree . I must have wheel chocks . I must have them . Do you understand it is imperative to my well being even and as well as.

Of the 50 something posts you've made of these forums since June, have any of them actually made any sense? :rotfl:

JP08

I know that, back in the '80s I was taught by my old man to depress the clutch when starting - goes back to the days of reducing the load on the starter. The driving instructor definitely instructed clutch NOT depressed.

They definitely all teach the waggle gearstick to check in neutral (in my first post I did stipulate it was "dopiest sister" !).

Parking with the handbrake off, but in gear might be another old time habit of the old boy. That dates back to drum brakes where it is possible after an energetic drive to park with the handbrake on and buckle the drums as they cool and contract.

Modern cars with stop/start tech will restart if you depress the clutch after a stall.

Personally always depress the clutch for starting - disconnecting the drive at startup just seems an elementary precaution ...

DPearce

Parked on an incline and car rolled down the hill, across the road and into a tree whilst i was in at a client. I have pictures and witnesses that my handbrake was up. Hyundai said that it needed to be SIX CLICKS and I had not pulled it up enough, only to FOUR CLICKS??? In my understanding, with a new vehicle, there should be no need to strain to pull the handbrake up, just to where it is taut and the car remains stationery. Could anyone else advise please?

AdrianC

DPearce wrote: »

Parked on an incline and car rolled down the hill, across the road and into a tree whilst i was in at a client. I have pictures and witnesses that my handbrake was up. Hyundai said that it needed to be SIX CLICKS and I had not pulled it up enough, only to FOUR CLICKS??? In my understanding, with a new vehicle, there should be no need to strain to pull the handbrake up, just to where it is taut and the car remains stationery. Could anyone else advise please?

I'm confused. You say a "new vehicle", but the title of your post says "2014 Hyundai Elantra" - apart from a 2yo car not being new, Hyundai haven't used the Elantra badge in the UK since 2006.

Either way, you pull the handbrake on to the point where it bites adequately for the slope you are parking on. Quoting an arbitrary number of clicks is irrelevant - as it's entirely dependent on the adjustment of the rear brakes and the handbrake cable.

At the end of the day, it is the responsibility of the driver, and nobody else. You clearly didn't pull it on hard enough, regardless of how many clicks. If the hill's steep, then it's wise to leave it in gear with the steering pointed towards the kerb.