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Katykat
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HALTON HOSPITAL
This information may be of considerable interest to people facing PCNs at Halton Hospital.
1] Halton Council has confirmed this week that the ANPR Camera operated at the Hospital Way entrance is located on adopted Council owned land, not on Hospital land.
2] Hospital Way also has adopted status as far as to extend to the main Phase 1 entrance of the hospital. In effect any enforcement on Hospital Way is being carried out on Council land !
3] The Council has given no permission for Highview Parking Limited to undertake parking control or enforcement on the Councils' land or install ANPR on Council land.
These three startling matters could have dramatic consequences for the Trust and Highview Parking but most importantly for you if you have had a PCN.
The surveillance coverage of the camera at the Hospital Way entrance is capturing images of drivers on the adopted highway and the value of the images to prove you were on Hospital land is now open to question.
This also means that if your car was pictured on Hospital Way the parking company have retrieved personal data on you doing no more than lawfully driving on the highway. For all Highview knows you were simply parked in Hospital Way and you did not overstay at all !
Guidance in Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012: Recovery of Unpaid Parking Charge, Section 4.1 states, ‘The provisions in Schedule 4 are intended to apply only on private land in England and Wales. Public highways are excluded as well as any parking places on public land which are either provided or controlled by a local authority (or other government body)’. In other words Highview have absolutely no rights to issue PCNs if you were on Council owned adopted highway.
The BPA Approved Operator Scheme ‘Code of Practice Control and enforcement of parking on private land and unregulated public car parks’ Version 4 – February 2014. Section 7.1 of the Code of Practice requires landowners consent and it is now evident that Highview Parking do not have Halton Council’s permission to undertake parking enforcement on those areas of hospital grounds for which the Council is responsible or to photograph vehicles on the public highway.
We must all await to see how the Trust reacts to this information but is must seriously undermine the issuing of PCNs at Halton Hospital.
Meanwhile a complaint has been made to the DVLA that vehicles are being photographed on the adopted highway and drivers details used to issue PCNs for nearby private land. Halton Council are following up action as well.
This information may be of considerable interest to people facing PCNs at Halton Hospital.
1] Halton Council has confirmed this week that the ANPR Camera operated at the Hospital Way entrance is located on adopted Council owned land, not on Hospital land.
2] Hospital Way also has adopted status as far as to extend to the main Phase 1 entrance of the hospital. In effect any enforcement on Hospital Way is being carried out on Council land !
3] The Council has given no permission for Highview Parking Limited to undertake parking control or enforcement on the Councils' land or install ANPR on Council land.
These three startling matters could have dramatic consequences for the Trust and Highview Parking but most importantly for you if you have had a PCN.
The surveillance coverage of the camera at the Hospital Way entrance is capturing images of drivers on the adopted highway and the value of the images to prove you were on Hospital land is now open to question.
This also means that if your car was pictured on Hospital Way the parking company have retrieved personal data on you doing no more than lawfully driving on the highway. For all Highview knows you were simply parked in Hospital Way and you did not overstay at all !
Guidance in Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012: Recovery of Unpaid Parking Charge, Section 4.1 states, ‘The provisions in Schedule 4 are intended to apply only on private land in England and Wales. Public highways are excluded as well as any parking places on public land which are either provided or controlled by a local authority (or other government body)’. In other words Highview have absolutely no rights to issue PCNs if you were on Council owned adopted highway.
The BPA Approved Operator Scheme ‘Code of Practice Control and enforcement of parking on private land and unregulated public car parks’ Version 4 – February 2014. Section 7.1 of the Code of Practice requires landowners consent and it is now evident that Highview Parking do not have Halton Council’s permission to undertake parking enforcement on those areas of hospital grounds for which the Council is responsible or to photograph vehicles on the public highway.
We must all await to see how the Trust reacts to this information but is must seriously undermine the issuing of PCNs at Halton Hospital.
Meanwhile a complaint has been made to the DVLA that vehicles are being photographed on the adopted highway and drivers details used to issue PCNs for nearby private land. Halton Council are following up action as well.
:smileyhea A SMILE COSTS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
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as reported on parking pranksters website
typical ppc idiocy0 -
Hi Katykat,
Apologies this post is not really on topic and I don't know if it's just me but I find your "waving hand" avatar very distracting.
It actually puts me off reading your posts because I find them extremely difficult to read whilst the hand keeps on waving.
I have to really concentrate to try to ignore it or try to cover it up and tbh I've felt like giving up and not bothering - which would be a shame because then the useful info would be missed.0 -
I don't know if it's just me but I find your "waving hand" avatar very distracting.
So do I .over 73 but not over the hill.0 -
I hope the local papers have picked up on this and they are inundated with claims.I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.0
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ColliesCarer wrote: »Hi Katykat,
Apologies this post is not really on topic and I don't know if it's just me but I find your "waving hand" avatar very distracting.
It actually puts me off reading your posts because I find them extremely difficult to read whilst the hand keeps on waving.
I have to really concentrate to try to ignore it or try to cover it up and tbh I've felt like giving up and not bothering - which would be a shame because then the useful info would be missed.So do I.
And having been attacked by a collie dog while trapped in a phone box I feel exactly the same.:D0 -
ColliesCarer wrote: »Hi Katykat,
Apologies this post is not really on topic and I don't know if it's just me but I find your "waving hand" avatar very distracting.
It actually puts me off reading your posts because I find them extremely difficult to read whilst the hand keeps on waving.
I have to really concentrate to try to ignore it or try to cover it up and tbh I've felt like giving up and not bothering - which would be a shame because then the useful info would be missed.
I find the same too - Katykat you are on other busy threads and I'm afraid I immediately scroll your posts up so they are off-screen because I can't read anything with that hand waving about.
It's a shame because I do actually want to read what you have to say
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Displaying of avatars (other people's!) can be turned off in the user control panel.Je suis Charlie.0
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^^^^^^^^^^^ ditto ^^^^^^^^^0
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peaceandfreedom wrote: »Ah, never knew that, thanks - that is so much better.
DOH!
Commiserations to the OP for having to put up with such responses:A Goddess :A0
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