Fence issue with neighbour and landlord

judywoody

by the way the agency sided with us when we spoke to them but obviously have to let the landlord decide

fairy_lights

judywoody wrote: »

And it was full of weeds, sorry I dont have a before picture. we were really embarrassed to invite people to our house. yes, the ground floor windows are his but we have the front entrance so most people associate the house with us.

So just tell people the front garden isn't your responsibility and the weeds are because your neighbour likes it that way. Being embarrassed to invite people round is a pretty extreme reaction to something fairly trivial.

judywoody

Daerve wrote: »

You have lots of rights, just not the right to hack someone else's weeds down without asking them first you cheeky sod.

If I lived next door to you I wouldn't bother with a gate, I'd dig a moat and fill it with laser beam toting sharks.

are you for real? I really don't understand people's attitude. leaving a garden to rack and ruin seems to be hip these days and is being honored by the righteous people of the mse forum.

judywoody

fairy_lights wrote: »

So just tell people the front garden isn't your responsibility and the weeds are because your neighbour likes it that way. Being embarrassed to invite people round is a pretty extreme reaction to something fairly trivial.

people here seem to have pretty low standards. sorry if my feelings are too extreme for you.

Daerve

judywoody wrote: »

I really don't understand people's attitude.

Then perhaps you should reflect on why that is?

Regardless of how messy it looked and I'm no fan of messy gardens believe me, you had no right to simply assume it was communal, hack the weeds down and install that hideous fence.

You both have to live there and a bit of magnanimity would go a long way as would simple communication.

judywoody

Daerve wrote: »

Then perhaps you should reflect on why that is?

Regardless of how messy it looked and I'm no fan of messy gardens believe me, you had no right to simply assume it was communal, hack the weeds down and install that hideous fence.

You both have to live there and a bit of magnanimity would go a long way as would simple communication.

it's like saying you have no right to help an old lady over the road. maybe it's because I grew up in an area where everyone looked after their gardens. I thought I would do him a favour. in view of the lack of clarification in the contract, and in his, too I don't think it was unreasonable to believe that the area is communal. especially because he also has a back yard. and even now nobody actually seems to know. our fence could have easily been removed. and i could have done that myself. so it seems my view of events is trivial and his view is the worst thing that could have happened to him. and the whole world agrees. whatever has happened to humankind???

dodger1

judywoody wrote: »

An attitude like what? See comment above. His remark was pretty patronising and not even slightly constructive.

Well you are making a mountain out of a molehill and most posters here seem to agree.

judywoody

dodger1 wrote: »

Well you are making a mountain out of a molehill and most posters here seem to agree.

easy to say that when it doesn't affect you. I could claim the whole forum is full of people making mountains out of molehills. I for my part like to have a reasonably tidy area in front of my front door. maybe you don't, that's your choice.

moneyistooshorttomention

My assumption would have been that the area is communal - but communal areas need communal decisions. You can do what you please on something that's just yours (bar anything antisocial obviously).

But....yep....I would have assumed its communal - but then realised that would mean I had better just knock politely on neighbours door and suss out the ground as to whether "we" might like to tidy up the weeds or no (would probably have been agreed)/whether "we" might like to put up that bamboo fence or no (yep...I would have objected to that) and what "we" thought we might like to plant in that bit of earth (as peoples tastes can be widely different on that one).

It has to be said that that would be all the more necessary because of the "invasion of privacy" factor of being right in front of the neighbours windows and able to look straight through them (none of us like to see a strange face popping up right outside our windows and looking in - even if only inadvertently).

It does get backs up if only one household tries to make decisions that affects other households - voice of experience of being on receiving end of that one and it does NOT go down a treat...:cool:

judywoody

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

My assumption would have been that the area is communal - but communal areas need communal decisions. You can do what you please on something that's just yours (bar anything antisocial obviously).

But....yep....I would have assumed its communal - but then realised that would mean I had better just knock politely on neighbours door and suss out the ground as to whether "we" might like to tidy up the weeds or no (would probably have been agreed)/whether "we" might like to put up that bamboo fence or no (yep...I would have objected to that) and what "we" thought we might like to plant in that bit of earth (as peoples tastes can be widely different on that one).

It has to be said that that would be all the more necessary because of the "invasion of privacy" factor of being right in front of the neighbours windows and able to look straight through them (none of us like to see a strange face popping up right outside our windows and looking in - even if only inadvertently).

It does get backs up if only one household tries to make decisions that affects other households - voice of experience of being on receiving end of that one and it does NOT go down a treat...:cool:

i can see your point to some degree but he really always made the best attempt to ignore us to being downright rude by not even responding to a simple hello and generally never bothered about the garden. so to put, pulling weeds out, down as something negative is beyond me. his windows are completely covered with the curtains shut and the only we've been in his area was when we pulled the weeds. the fence was only put up because there was just a bare stone wall.

it seems his lack of communication accounts for nothing and at least the fence we put up wasn't concreted into the ground unlike his... i would have at least expected the landlord to give us heads up or say to him, let me check the contract. he just said yes cause he didn't have to pay for it.