Rear tyres on FWD car

andygb

neilmcl wrote: »

Neither of which would be classed as "ditchfinders".

I agree Neil, but I remember getting slated on here for saying the Pirelli P6000 was a decent tyre.
As Joe has pointed out, it all comes down to smooth driving (even when you have to react quickly in an emergency).
Far better to enter a corner at the right speed, than put a load of pressure on the front wheels too late, or God forbid when you are actually in the corner.
I know that rally/F1 drivers can be using both brake and loud pedals at the same time in corners, but for mere mortals it is better to be safe and secure.;)

gilbert_and_sullivan

andygb wrote: »

I agree Neil, but I remember getting slated on here for saying the Pirelli P6000 was a decent tyre.

P6000 was a perfectly good tyre on the right car, preferably a heavy one, had a set on one of the faster Mercs i owned couldn't unstick them.

parking_question_chap

Car has ABS, traction control and discs all round. Will probably go for the Uniroyals just to be safe.

Strider590

jase1 wrote: »

Cheaper "ditchfinder" tyres seem to be getting better of late.

I have some very, very cheap "Joy Road" tyres fitted to the rear of my car at the moment. I believe these are Asda Tyres' cheapo ditchfinder brand, made in China.

And you know what, they're fine. In the wet, the Avons on the front (all four tyres are near new) are the ones that seem more willing to let go.

I turned my nose up at them at first, but they're staying where they are.

Because most cars, even performance cars are set up to under steer at the limit.

Most people couldn't handle a FWD car in over steer, they'd panic hit the brakes and find themselves doing a 360.

jase1

Strider590 wrote: »

Because most cars, even performance cars are set up to under steer at the limit.

Most people couldn't handle a FWD car in over steer, they'd panic hit the brakes and find themselves doing a 360.

I get that, but the point is I've tried to push these tyres into oversteer in the wet. They won't budge. I know where the limit is on the car and these tyres don't seem significantly worse than the Pirellis that went before them.

almillar

No-one has mentioned remoulds yet - I wonder if that's a dirty word? As long as it's been done properly (with a BS logo) remoulds can be great, and can be better than the cheapest new ones you can find. (No personal experience!).

Astronaughtwannabe

Even the cheaper Japanese type tyres are pretty good now. The major players tried to impose minimum standards to get rid of some of the competition but the cheaper manufacturers just upped their game.

arcon5

parking_question_chap wrote: »

Car has ABS, traction control and discs all round. Will probably go for the Uniroyals just to be safe.

It makes no difference! Either the tyre is the correct size or it isn't. If it's the correct size then get the cheapest you can find and ignore the drama about them being 'ditch finders' - we have minimum safety standards in this country!

jase1

Astronaughtwannabe wrote: »

Even the cheaper Japanese type tyres are pretty good now. The major players tried to impose minimum standards to get rid of some of the competition but the cheaper manufacturers just upped their game.

Don't mix up Japanese with Chinese. Japanese products are as good as anything in the world. The Korean stuff these days often isn't far behind, either.

There are a lot of smaller Chinese tyre manufacturers and some of these can be problematic. But some of the Chinese vendors are becoming significant players in their own right now, and given their low prices this is forcing the lower quality factories to improve or die.

Few importers will buy a crap tyre for $20 each wholesale when a decent performer can be had for $20.50. Not worth their while