28M - Ex-police (resigned) and bankrupt - career advice?

youngbuck2

mustang121 wrote: »

Stop fixating on your salary of £40K that you had, that's in the past and it will only upset you more.


Right now even a job that paid £16k would significantly improve your life that you currently have.




I agree with the others that your options are:
1) Learn a trade and become self-employed.
2) Find a decent company, start from the bottom and take advantage of obtaining new qualifications through work.
3) Get any job, figure out what you want to do and obtain self-fund your own qualifications.

I've said it a few times since my original post that I realise I need to stop focusing on my old salary. I'm over it, I just want to find what's best for me.

Tiddlywinks

youngbuck2 wrote: »

And your point in all of this is? The only reason I can think of that you would decide to put so much effort into a post like this is to try and make me out to be dishonest?

I've mentioned I didn't want to go into detail on a public forum for obvious reasons, so have described it in vague terms. There is no need whatsoever for you to go into detail, supplying links to Home Office guidelines etc. If someone is interested enough they can conduct their own research.

But for you to reply in detail about your doubts over my GM matter because I am vague about it, is a bit malicious if I'm honest. No need for it at all.

I'm come on here asking for help and advice which the vast majority on here have done and been very helpful. But you seem to want to focus on that particular aspect when it is a very sensitive matter for me and is causing me a lot of issues.

No need for research as I have recently worked in a related area.

I've seen lots of people fumbling over explanations of their 'mistakes' and trying to minimise it... it's rarely believable... that's the important point.

No employer is going to accept that you walked out of your job of eight years simply because you made one isolated unfortunate remark to a member of the public.

I'm not trying to be malicious - I'm trying to get you to see that you need to work on how you explain the gross misconduct allegation to a prospective employer.

People will be suspicious and giving woolly excuses that won't ring true won't help.

Get a job where you can, doing anything available, even for minimum wage so you can get a recent good character reference - then you'll have something to mitigate the effects of the MPS reference.

The passage of time filled with good references will go some way to offsetting the current performance blot.

LABMAN

Sorry youngbuck2 did you dismiss the idea of HGV driving? There is a real shortage and 40k/year could be achievable for you in a couple of years?

ohreally

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agrinnall

youngbuck2 wrote: »

I don't think misconduct on my CV as well as being bankrupt will look too appealing to MI5, but who knows.

Having been on the receiving end of the first (and easiest) part of a Developed Vetting interview (not by MI5 but by another security service) I would be very surprised if MI5 would consider anyone to be the interviewer with either of those things in their background, let alone both.

I think that unless you are prepared to put in the academic work to get better qualifications then the trade route may well be the best option for you. Yes, you might well have a few years on low pay, but if you're good at what you do and you're able to interact well with your customers (so if that has been an issue for you in the police, it's something you could work on) then hard work could allow you to build up a decent business.

youngbuck2

LABMAN wrote: »

Sorry youngbuck2 did you dismiss the idea of HGV driving? There is a real shortage and 40k/year could be achievable for you in a couple of years?

I've added it to my list of ones to look into thank you.

youngbuck2

Another career I had suggested to me was IT networking/support. Many vacancies I see don't look for graduates, more certifications and experience. If I could get an entry level service desk/IT support job (perhaps after working in a low paid/MW job to gain a reference) I could study for certifications on the side (CCNA etc) and perhaps with a few years under my belt, move up a position.

I thought I'd made a bit of progress in this thread but as soon as I thought I had an idea due to people's suggestions (Health and Safety advisor, retail, close protection) I seem to be shot down and told there's no chance of getting in.

So the general feeling is that with the misconduct, I won't (read: shouldn't) get in to any reputable security/close protection role which involves vetting. Fair enough.

youngbuck2

Still interested in the Health & Safety sector..

Anyone in the H&S world have any input? Is it worth considering completing a NEBOSH national general certificate and then trying to find work in an entry-level H&S advisor role? I would *hopefully* have gained a positive reference in another job (retail type) whilst studying for the certificate. I just want to know whether this is a feasible route? Will the NEBOSH national general certificate in itself be sufficient?

Retail/Hospitality

Also considered what someone else mentioned - get general/minimum wage retail or hospitality job, gain as much entry level experience as possible, studying for a Business Management degree with the OU to gain knowledge and to show my intention to progress, then move around/push for better roles as I gain experience?

Does that sound realistic?

The way some people are talking on here is quite eye opening for me - I'm starting to believe I'm unemployable even in minimum wage/entry level jobs because of the misconduct.

Sorry to rabbit on, but it's important I get some direction and a sense of purpose.

agrinnall

youngbuck2 wrote: »

The way some people are talking on here is quite eye opening for me - I'm starting to believe I'm unemployable even in minimum wage/entry level jobs because of the misconduct.

That's almost certainly not the case, but it's not going to make getting a job easy. Which is a good reason for the trade route, where you can be your own boss and not be dependent on what other people think of your past actions.

missbiggles1

youngbuck2 wrote: »

I resigned as 'on paper' it at least gives me a chance to explain myself a bit more. Dismissed/sacked to me, seemed marginally worse than resigned.

I quite like the idea of Health & Safety as someone above mentioned. I can complete a NEBOSH certificate in a fairly short amount of time, hopefully land an entry-level health and safety advisor role (I've seen some advertised that only require the certificate with no prior experience) and go from there?

Whilst studying for the certificate I plan on getting a part-time job 1. to get a bit of cash coming in 2. to gain an additional reference. I also plan on volunteering in something locally, Red Cross, St John's etc that will add something to be CV, benefit the people I work with and also provide a character reference (hopefully).

Does all that sound feasible or is the NEBOSH certificate setting my sights too high still?

Unfortunately you'd have to fund a NEBOSH qualification yourself and they aren't cheap.