28M - Ex-police (resigned) and bankrupt - career advice?

gettingready

some more to encourage

http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/contracts/uk/trainer.do

those are UK rates..

do NOT look at rates abroad, especially in Middle East - you will not be able to sleep LOL

always remember - there ARE options if you have the mind set for it

nite

pupgrum

A lot of people are suggesting retail and work your way up, but I know most well known retailers do check references, and will automatically reject you soon as they read gross misconduct in previous job. My brother is a Waitrose manager and he rejects anyone with a criminal record or was previously sacked for gross misconduct. He gives generic feedback to avoid lawsuits. You won't even make it to the interview to explain to the employer. You have a better chance in an off licence store, but those kind of retail jobs have no career prospects. It'll at least get you a work reference.

ohreally

pupgrum wrote: »

I know most well known retailers do check references, and will automatically reject you soon as they read gross misconduct in previous job. My brother is a Waitrose manager and he rejects anyone with a criminal record or was previously sacked for gross misconduct. He gives generic feedback to avoid lawsuits

Why would your brother be giving feedback to someone who has no chance of him interviewing?

Isn't a second chance worth considering? The relationship with a previous manager/ employer is not an indication that all future relationships will be toxic.

pupgrum

ohreally wrote: »

Why would your brother be giving feedback to someone who has no chance of him interviewing?

Isn't a second chance worth considering? The relationship with a previous manager/ employer is not an indication that all future relationships will be toxic.

He gets people asking for feedback a lot, sometimes after an interview, sometimes when rejected before even getting an interview. What he does is randomly pick a few to give a generic reply and ignore the rest because it's too time consuming replying everyone.

I'm all for second chances but not an employer myself lol. My brother also believes in second chances, but when you're flooded with many job applicants, why take on a higher risk of employing someone who was previously sacked? You're asking someone who runs a busy store, busy enough to make him skip meals often, to make the effort hiring someone considered a higher risk factor than the other job applicants. I also know my local Boots store has never hired anyone previously sacked. Can't speak for other branches.

Off licence stores are less competitive so the boss is more likely to take his time listening to why you was previously sacked. In fact you might not even be asked to supply a reference.

youngbuck2

pupgrum wrote: »

A lot of people are suggesting retail and work your way up, but I know most well known retailers do check references, and will automatically reject you soon as they read gross misconduct in previous job. My brother is a Waitrose manager and he rejects anyone with a criminal record or was previously sacked for gross misconduct. He gives generic feedback to avoid lawsuits. You won't even make it to the interview to explain to the employer. You have a better chance in an off licence store, but those kind of retail jobs have no career prospects. It'll at least get you a work reference.

I was never "sacked". I resigned prior to any hearing. I know this isn't too big a deal but at least I can explain myself - "dismissed" is rather damning, whilst "resigned" at least shows I had a choice in the matter.

youngbuck2

**update**

Okay so I've finally taken the plunge and decided what I want to do.....

Registed with the Open University to complete a BA(Hons) Business Management degree. At the same time I intend to get a retail job (entry level, minimum wage, ANYTHING) regardless of how long it takes. I can gain experience working for a business over 3 years whilst studying. Towards the end of the degree I intend to apply for graduate schemes. Hopefully aim towards a 2:1 if I can, and in combination with a bit of experience hopefully land any kind of graduate placement/scheme/job. Alternatively, if not, I'll stick with the job I get and try and work my way up through experience. I've always wanted a degree at some point, and this gives me the perfect opportunity to pursue one.

Thank you to everyone who replied (helpful or not), there were some really useful and informative posts and I've certainly learnt to reduce my expectations considering my circumstances. There are some really kind and thoughtful people that went out of their way to post comprehensive replies and posts and it has very much helped in my decision.

Southend1

youngbuck2 wrote: »

I was never "sacked". I resigned prior to any hearing. I know this isn't too big a deal but at least I can explain myself - "dismissed" is rather damning, whilst "resigned" at least shows I had a choice in the matter.

It rather amounts to the same thing, I'm afraid. If you thought there was a chance you would not be sacked you would not have resigned. Resigning is an admission that you would have been sacked had you stayed.

Whether or not the above is true, this is how it will be viewed by the vast majority of potential employers.

Southend1

youngbuck2 wrote: »

**update**

Okay so I've finally taken the plunge and decided what I want to do.....

Registed with the Open University to complete a BA(Hons) Business Management degree. At the same time I intend to get a retail job (entry level, minimum wage, ANYTHING) regardless of how long it takes. I can gain experience working for a business over 3 years whilst studying. Towards the end of the degree I intend to apply for graduate schemes. Hopefully aim towards a 2:1 if I can, and in combination with a bit of experience hopefully land any kind of graduate placement/scheme/job. Alternatively, if not, I'll stick with the job I get and try and work my way up through experience. I've always wanted a degree at some point, and this gives me the perfect opportunity to pursue one.

Thank you to everyone who replied (helpful or not), there were some really useful and informative posts and I've certainly learnt to reduce my expectations considering my circumstances. There are some really kind and thoughtful people that went out of their way to post comprehensive replies and posts and it has very much helped in my decision.

Sounds like a good plan. Good luck, I hope it works out for you.

gettingready

Good Luck - with whatever you decide

missbiggles1

youngbuck2 wrote: »

**update**

Okay so I've finally taken the plunge and decided what I want to do.....

Registed with the Open University to complete a BA(Hons) Business Management degree. At the same time I intend to get a retail job (entry level, minimum wage, ANYTHING) regardless of how long it takes. I can gain experience working for a business over 3 years whilst studying. Towards the end of the degree I intend to apply for graduate schemes. Hopefully aim towards a 2:1 if I can, and in combination with a bit of experience hopefully land any kind of graduate placement/scheme/job. Alternatively, if not, I'll stick with the job I get and try and work my way up through experience. I've always wanted a degree at some point, and this gives me the perfect opportunity to pursue one.

Thank you to everyone who replied (helpful or not), there were some really useful and informative posts and I've certainly learnt to reduce my expectations considering my circumstances. There are some really kind and thoughtful people that went out of their way to post comprehensive replies and posts and it has very much helped in my decision.

You do realise that it'll take you longer than 3 years to do your degree, don't you?