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Named Driver on a previously voided insurnace policy

adatdeys
adatdeys Posts: 3 Newbie
edited 28 June 2015 at 5:36PM in Insurance & life assurance
Hi,

In early 2014, I was a named driver on my father's insurance policy. I had an accident which was not my fault and made the claim with my company, but they voided the policy (The Car was under my brothers name, the Insurance Policy under my father's name, the insurnace company felt we lied to them though my dad was sure he told them how it was) anyway long story short, they voided that policy and gave full refund of premiums (I am not sure whether or not the claim is on the CUE database at all though)

Fast forward to today,

I bought a car yesterday and want to take out insurance on it. The car is in my name and the policy is going to be in my name.

Do i mention that i was a named driver on a POLICY that was voided (even though I was not the policy holder at the time?) My dad won't be a named driver on this policy so it shouldnt be an issue and i assuming my insurance company didn't process the claim at all so it doesnt count as a claim? ( I appreciate this is a big assumption to make)

I know companies are always iffy when it comes to voided policies.

Thanks
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  • rs65
    rs65 Posts: 5,682 Forumite
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    In my opinion

    Your father had a voided policy

    You had an accident/made a claim
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Answer the question regarding cancelled policies truthfully.


    Normally you only answer yes if you have ever had a policy of your own voided/cancelled so you probably have nothing to disclose regarding a voided policy


    But your assumption is not quite right concerning your accident.


    This will normally have to be disclosed as part of your driving history (companies ask about any claims or losses over the previous 3/5 years) and your loss will have been recorded at the time and still be on the database.
  • dacouch
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    between you and your brother you've blighted your father's insurance record.

    i hope for his sake he's declaring the voided policy to his car and home insurers and any other insurers who ask about previously voided policies
  • Parking_Trouble
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    edited 28 June 2015 at 7:30PM
    dacouch wrote: »
    between you and your brother you've blighted your father's insurance record.

    i hope for his sake he's declaring the voided policy to his car and home insurers and any other insurers who ask about previously voided policies

    Innocent until proved guilty? The OP hasn't expanded on the reason why the policy was voided and if he the OP was aware as the named driver, so we don't know all the facts. You seem to be assuming deliberate fronting.
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  • dacouch
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    Innocent until proved guilty? The OP hasn't expanded on the reason why the policy was voided and if he the OP was aware as the named driver, so we don't know all the facts. You seem to be assuming deliberate fronting.

    Experience would suggest it's highly likely bearing in mind the circumstances eg

    a) Father policyholder
    b) Car registered in brothers name
    c) Accident by younger brother
    d) Insurer voided the policy

    In my experience, if the father genuinely owned the vehicle and the son's were just added on as occasional drivers when they passed their tests. Then the car would be registered in the father's name.

    Willing to be proved wrong but I would be surprised if this was not the case
  • Quite clearly there is a mix up with the RK, Owner, Policyholder situation which the insurer finds sufficient to void the policy.

    However, I prefer not to judge without the OP explaining all the available facts.

    Insurers sometimes get it wrong.
    Mr Straw described whiplash as "not so much an injury, more a profitable invention of the human imagination—undiagnosable except by third-rate doctors in the pay of the claims management companies or personal injury lawyers"

  • Hi,

    Thanks for your opinions,

    The voided occurred because on the system, the insurance company had the owner as the car as my father when it should of been my brother's name . We already had a policy with them for another car, which my dad owns, and added another car onto the policy as it was a multi-car discount. My dad's English is not the greatest unfortunately and thus when he was telling them on the phone and telling them that it was my brother's name on the car, there was a misunderstanding between him and the operator on the phone. Fast forward a year and time to make the claim, the insurance company felt that we didn't tell them everything. My dad swears that he told them it was my brother's car. But I'm not looking to cry over spilt milk here, that was in the past and my dad has informed the insurance policies he's taken out since of this issue and other insurers are fine with it (after adjusting for the premium obviously).

    I'm not looking to claim sympathy or support from anyone for the above incident but the problem at hand.

    My problem relates to the issue at hand and that's me taking our insurance on a new car.

    I phone up my old insurance company and discussed with them and they advised me that whilst they never followed through with the claim, there is still a note on my name and my father's name so I would be best advised to inform future insurers.]


    So to summarise:

    (1) Void is on my father's name - shouldn't need to inform them but to play it safe do it anyway
    (2) Policy is on both of our names - inform it

    Thanks for your opinions people and hopefully this will come in handy for someone else should they be in a similar situation.
  • rudekid48
    rudekid48 Posts: 2,382 Forumite
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    I remember a thread about this voided policy - was that you under a different username OP?
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  • Nope, but I did read it, it was just a different scenario.
  • dacouch
    dacouch Posts: 21,636 Forumite
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    adatdeys wrote: »
    Hi,

    Thanks for your opinions,

    The voided occurred because on the system, the insurance company had the owner as the car as my father when it should of been my brother's name . We already had a policy with them for another car, which my dad owns, and added another car onto the policy as it was a multi-car discount. My dad's English is not the greatest unfortunately and thus when he was telling them on the phone and telling them that it was my brother's name on the car, there was a misunderstanding between him and the operator on the phone. Fast forward a year and time to make the claim, the insurance company felt that we didn't tell them everything. My dad swears that he told them it was my brother's car. But I'm not looking to cry over spilt milk here, that was in the past and my dad has informed the insurance policies he's taken out since of this issue and other insurers are fine with it (after adjusting for the premium obviously).

    I'm not looking to claim sympathy or support from anyone for the above incident but the problem at hand.

    My problem relates to the issue at hand and that's me taking our insurance on a new car.

    I phone up my old insurance company and discussed with them and they advised me that whilst they never followed through with the claim, there is still a note on my name and my father's name so I would be best advised to inform future insurers.]


    So to summarise:

    (1) Void is on my father's name - shouldn't need to inform them but to play it safe do it anyway
    (2) Policy is on both of our names - inform it

    Thanks for your opinions people and hopefully this will come in handy for someone else should they be in a similar situation.

    Which is pretty much my description of the matter...
    dacouch wrote: »
    Experience would suggest it's highly likely bearing in mind the circumstances eg

    a) Father policyholder
    b) Car registered in brothers name
    c) Accident by younger brother
    d) Insurer voided the policy

    In my experience, if the father genuinely owned the vehicle and the son's were just added on as occasional drivers when they passed their tests. Then the car would be registered in the father's name.

    Willing to be proved wrong but I would be surprised if this was not the case
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