UKPC Parking Charge - Company Lease Car

heyjim

Hi all,

My company recently received a parking charge from UKPC for my company car. The letter is addressed to the company, not me.

I basically overstayed in a car park by 33 mins but at the time, it was 8:30pm and all the shops were shut!

£60 seems excessive given the shop were shut so they've not lost out as a result of me being there.

What are the chances of me getting this reduced or off altogether?

Thanks

Northlakes

At least the leasing company have passed on the NTK to you and not automatically paid it.
Read and digest the NEWBIES thread and follow the instructions given.
To get it away from the lease company you will have to appeal as the 'keeper' and do that urgently in time to get your soft appeal in and after this is rejected by the PPC get the POPLA code and win there.

Umkomaas

What are the chances of me getting this reduced or off altogether?

No chance of getting it reduced.

Every chance of avoiding this completely (note - NOT 'getting off' anything, which suggests you've done something seriously 'wrong'!).

The NEWBIES FAQ sticky is the place to start (we are unable to type the same information dozens of times a day when each newby is basically asking the same question).

Come back once you've digested it if something isn't quite clear.

heyjim

Thanks for the replies

So from what I can gather I need to appeal via their online form - even though I'm not the registered keeper, do I say I am on the form?

And then is this the correct letter to send in the appeal?

[FONT=&quot]I challenge this 'PCN' as keeper of the car, on these main grounds:

a). The sum is disproportionate, does not represent a genuine pre-estimate of loss, nor is it a core price term.
b) The sum is extravagant and unconscionable and cannot be justified. As the ParkingEye v Beavis case is pending a hearing at the Supreme Court, your position is effectively likely to be stayed until 2016 if you try to pursue this matter so I invite you to cancel the PCN now.
c). There is no evidence that you have any proprietary interest in the land. I will complain to the landowner about your aggressive ticketing model.
d). As keeper I believe that the signs were not seen, the wording is ambiguous and the predominant purpose of your business model is to deter.

The purpose of this communication is:

1. Formal challenge
There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. As such, you must cancel the charge. I suggest you uphold this challenge now or alternatively, send a rejection letter and I will only appeal further if you offer POPLA, which is the only ADR with a scrutiny panel where it is seen to be independent. Any other alternative will not be considered.

2. ''Drop hands'' offer
The extravagant 'parking charge' is baseless but I realise that you may have incurred nominal postage costs. Equally, I have incurred costs to date, for responding to your junk mail dressed up to impersonate a parking ticket. It is clear that my costs and yours, at this point, do not exceed £15. Therefore, this is a formal “drop hands” offer. I remind you of the duty to mitigate any loss, so withdraw the spurious charge within 35 days without further expense and I will not pursue you for my costs.

3. Notice of cancellation of contract
I hereby give notice of withdrawal from this alleged 'contract' which was never properly offered by you and certainly was not expressly agreed. This 'contract' is hereby cancelled and any obligations now end. The Consumer Contracts (Information, Cancellation & Additional Payments) Regulations apply now to every consumer contract. You have failed to meet the statutory requirements for information served in advance by durable medium.

I have kept proof of submission of this challenge. I look forward to your considered reply within 35 days.

Yours faithfully,[/FONT]

I've removed the bits about POFA. Not sure if I need to add or remove anything else.

A lot to take in!

Thanks

Northlakes

That's OK. You are the keeper of vehicle. The sole purpose of this letter is to cut out the leasing company and get a POPLA code after your appeal is rejected by the PPC.

Come back when you receive the rejection letter and a number of posters will help with editing a suitable POPLA appeal.

heyjim

So the rejection letter turned up today - it says the parking charge was correctly issued etc etc.

Where do I go from here?

Umkomaas

heyjim wrote: »

So the rejection letter turned up today - it says the parking charge was correctly issued etc etc.

Where do I go from here?

NEWBIES sticky, post #3. Tells you about appealing to POPLA.

I presume you got a POPLA code with the rejection?

heyjim

Thanks I'll take a look.

POPLA Reference No at the top - I assume thats it?

Umkomaas

heyjim wrote: »

Thanks I'll take a look.

POPLA Reference No at the top - I assume thats it?

10 digits. Check its validity and end date here:

http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/popla-code-checker/

heyjim

Yep it's valid.

Is there any templates I can use for the POPLA appeal? How do I go about it? Apologies if I've missed it in that sticky post

Redx

use the forum search box and find a recent appeal to plagiarise from

using suitable search words of course

like UKPC POPLA APPEAL (hint)

ps:- there are no popla templates, only examples of previous appeals, as each appeal is bespoke