ES Parking Enforcement - Warrington

Notorious69

I have been caught in Warrington by ES Parking Enforcement . Car park was £2.20 a day and went up to £2.50 but there were no signs advising of this change. I replied back to them (without any contact details) saying that I owe them 30p and would not be paying £40 or £100. They have now traced me through the DVLA and have sent a letter asking for payment or they 'could' take County Court action or refer it to a debt collection agency even though they haven't supplied any timescales for this. I have read the sticky notes and intend to appeal again.

So, as I have already appealed this, albeit without contact details, and said that if they don't uphold the appeal to refer it to POPLA they seem to have ignored my request and just sent a NTK letter. They are members of the IPC, but it's not clear whether I can appeal to POPLA or if this is only for members of certain bodies and if them ignoring my request to refer to POPLA and provide me with a POPLA reference number will help me?

Has anyone had dealings with ES Parking Enforcement, and if so, how did you proceed and get on?

Thanks for any advice.

Redx

if ES is IPC then you wont get a popla code, as that is for BPA members

you can try an IAS appeal to the IAS appeals body for the IPC (but its a kangaroo court)

read the NEWBIES sticky thread, tells you about all this

so forget about popla , its not relevant

Notorious69

I have received the NTK from ES Parking Enforcement and have read a number of posts saying that the NTK will be received between day 29 and day 56. I received it on day 76 after the ticket was put on the windscreen. Does this have any relevance at all? I read through the newbie thread and other posts but can't see anything that mentions NTK's received outside this date.

Just wondering if it's another point I can mention in my letter to them?

Thank you.

Umkomaas

I don't think we've seen an ES NtK on here.

Would you mind letting have sight of your redacted NtK please? A photo or a scan of it. Make sure you redact all personal information.

HOW TO UPLOAD PHOTOS OR SCANS TO MSE

To upload a photo/scan, you first need to host it on a free photo hosting site (Photobucket or Tinypic), copy the URL, paste it here, but change the http to hxxp (or remove it all together) and we'll do the conversion. Newbies can't directly upload photos/scans until they've got a few posts under their belt.

Fruitcake

Notorious69 wrote: »

I have received the NTK from ES Parking Enforcement and have read a number of posts saying that the NTK will be received between day 29 and day 56. I received it on day 76 after the ticket was put on the windscreen. Does this have any relevance at all? I read through the newbie thread and other posts but can't see anything that mentions NTK's received outside this date.

Just wondering if it's another point I can mention in my letter to them?

Thank you.

If you wanted to you could use it as your only appeal point. The NTK does not comply with POFA 2012 so only the driver is liable, not the keeper. As long as you don't reveal who was driving they can do nowt.

System

The reason why you haven't seen any on here is they only started on 22/12/2014 following a thorough investigation of the background of [TEXT REMOVED BY FORUM TEAM] following a Xmas lunch.


[TEXT REMOVED BY FORUM TEAM]

Note the offer "WE WILL BEAT ANY EXISTING CONTRACT BY 50%"

What is it about the Preston and Chorley area?

Notorious69

Hope this works okay!! 3 pages. If you can see any personal info still showing, please let me know!!

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I note that there is no timetables quoted for a reply? I thought under POFA 2012 Section 9.2.(f), they had to state that the keeper has 28 days to reply to them. They haven't given me any timescales!

Thank you

bod1467

Tip for the future (for when you are allowed to post links) ... don't try the embed images in the thread - just post links to them. (As a thought to our friends using mobile devices with smaller screens).

Here are clicky versions of the links. (I've not checked them as I can't access tinypic via work).

http://i59.tinypic.com/2rh8ms3.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/14czfpy.jpg
http://i60.tinypic.com/wr0x8z.jpg

Notorious69

Sorry, when I tried to do the links and change HTTP to HXXP, it still said I couldn't upload links so that was the only way that I could see to get them uploaded. Apologies and thanks for your help.

enfield_freddy

IamEmanresu wrote: »

The reason why you haven't seen any on here is they only started on 22/12/2014 following a thorough investigation of the background of [TEXT REMOVED BY FORUM TEAM] following a Xmas lunch.


[TEXT REMOVED BY FORUM TEAM]

Note the offer "WE WILL BEAT ANY EXISTING CONTRACT BY 50%"

What is it about the Preston and Chorley area?

what is it about Ribbleton hall high school , guess who else went to this skool?

Umkomaas

@OP. Thanks for the uploads. They are using a pretty standard IPC template. IPC operators are increasingly avoiding PoFA 2012 and not pursuing the keeper per se, as per the Act.

They are working on the basis that the 'reasonable assumption' is that the keeper was the driver, and the timescales for keeper liability are not in play. So 76 days is not a card you can use.

You're at a stage now of just seeing what their next move is, you're highly unlikely to get an agreement to appeal to the IAS - not that it would have made any difference, they are reported as rejecting 80% of appeals, so you'd have little chance.

See what happens next.