Tyre Blow out - who is at fault

DUTR

pendragon_arther wrote: »

Yes, were you watching one of these videos whilst driving as this would be illegal? If not why didn't you go on Youtube to view all the videos before proceeding to drive that day as you could have avoided the accident?

????? I don't understand the motive of your post.
Who on earth would be watching a video when driving?
At work yearly we have a hazard awareness course to pass to drive company vehicles.
The OP mentioned the zone is an accident blackspot (or similar) so should pass that area with extra caution.

Crabman

harveybobbles wrote: »

I was on the M6 two weeks ago and there was a three car crash just ahead. The Traffic Wombles had just arrived and held us back (I was 4 cars in). They moved the three cars quickly and then let all the traffic carry on but never bothered to move any of the broken glass.

This annoyed me. I would rather be delayed for another two minutes while they got their brushes out.

Take a couple of minutes to make a complaint - it's important they get feedback where there is a failure of service:

http://www.highways.gov.uk/highways-england/contact-us

arcon5

Ads an aside, you say you think the car was speeding - well there's hardly a shortage of those is there. Unless you are one of the tiny tiny few never to have exceeded a speed limit

RS2000.

DUTR wrote: »

????? I don't understand the motive of your post.
Who on earth would be watching a video when driving?
At work yearly we have a hazard awareness course to pass to drive company vehicles.
The OP mentioned the zone is an accident blackspot (or similar) so should pass that area with extra caution.

They probably will, now they're aware of it.

pendragon_arther

DUTR wrote: »

????? I don't understand the motive of your post.
Who on earth would be watching a video when driving?
At work yearly we have a hazard awareness course to pass to drive company vehicles.
The OP mentioned the zone is an accident blackspot (or similar) so should pass that area with extra caution.

I was being sarcie at your post about why the OP didn't watch safety videos. I've never watched one and I've driven accident-free for over forty years.

Iceweasel

pendragon_arther wrote: »

I was being sarcie at your post about why the OP didn't watch safety videos. I've never watched one and I've driven accident-free for over forty years.

I can understand your point there pendragon - but none of us are too old to learn and new circumstances and situations are appearing these days that many of us 'old sweats' (I'm speaking for myself of course) may not have encountered or even be aware of - yet.

AdrianC

A lot of people seem to think that passing their driving test decades ago means they know everything about how to drive. It doesn't. Passing a driving test - even if they could do it tomorrow - is the absolute bare minimum acceptable standard to be allowed onto the road without a chaperone.

DUTR

pendragon_arther wrote: »

I was being sarcie at your post about why the OP didn't watch safety videos. I've never watched one and I've driven accident-free for over forty years.

I'd still say they are worth a view, they don't make you less of a person, a lot of things you will already be aware of and react to subconciously.

Iceweasel wrote: »

I can understand your point there pendragon - but none of us are too old to learn and new circumstances and situations are appearing these days that many of us 'old sweats' (I'm speaking for myself of course) may not have encountered or even be aware of - yet.

Indeed, the traffic volumes have increased tremendously .

AdrianC wrote: »

A lot of people seem to think that passing their driving test decades ago means they know everything about how to drive. It doesn't. Passing a driving test - even if they could do it tomorrow - is the absolute bare minimum acceptable standard to be allowed onto the road without a chaperone.

Agreed, I always say you pass the test and then learn to drive, then the driver is flexible to many variables that will be presented to them and be able to defend themselves .

gilbert_and_sullivan

An event such as this might be easier for us oldies who started driving in cars that didn't control things for you, we had to learn to keep those on the road from day one and developed a healthy respect and feel for what was happening at the wheels, dreading that suddenly light feeling.

Often it must be said learned by mistake, though the grip levels were so low that most times losing it partly could be brought back under control, if we lost it altogther it might cost us some bent metal a wheel/tyre and a bent steering rack, when we'd scoured the scrap yards and put out heaps back togther again we'd learned another valuable lesson.

The grip levels and driver uninvolvment of modern cars don't allow the driver to learn feel in the same way, if it all goes pear shaped at twice or more the speed it would have with a Victor/Minx/Cortina then pure physics takes over and the results infinitely worse.

Iceweasel

gilbert_and_sullivan wrote: »

An event such as this might be easier for us oldies who started driving in cars that didn't control things for you, we had to learn to keep those on the road from day one and developed a healthy respect and feel for what was happening at the wheels, dreading that suddenly light feeling.

Often it must be said learned by mistake, though the grip levels were so low that most times losing it partly could be brought back under control, if we lost it altogther it might cost us some bent metal a wheel/tyre and a bent steering rack, when we'd scoured the scrap yards and put out heaps back togther again we'd learned another valuable lesson.

The grip levels and driver uninvolvment of modern cars don't allow the driver to learn feel in the same way, if it all goes pear shaped at twice or more the speed it would have with a Victor/Minx/Cortina then pure physics takes over and the results infinitely worse.

Absolutely on the ball there G&S - I could well have written that myself.

With all the modern electrickery of ABS, DSC, DTC etc. etc. by the time the car 'steps out of line' it's usually way past the skill of a mere mortal to make any recovery.

As for Victor/Minx Cortina - I learned skid control in an A35 van in a wet grassy field. :rotfl: