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  • Martyn1981
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    Carbon Commentary newsletter from Chris Goodall:
    1, Hydrogen steel in China. Steel manufacturer Ansteel opened a 10,000 tonne per year demonstration plant making iron using hydrogen via a fluidised bed. It claimed this as a world first although Hybrit in Sweden ran a long series of successful experiments using hydrogen until last year. Ansteel was keen to say that it used a network of 64 local suppliers using entirely Chinese-made equipment and that this demonstration site will be followed by a 500,000 tonne plant. Another example of climate tech. leadership passing to China

    2, Synfuel in Chile. HIF Global is the early leader in the production of synthetic gasoline from a wind-powered plant at the southern tip of Chile. It noted two important steps in the last weeks. A Chilean naval vessel ran on its gasoline mixed with conventional fuel. Second, all the Porsche cars competing in an eight race European competition used the fuel. HIF said that its gasoline requires no modifications to engines or to the supply infrastructure. (But we can hypothesise that the fuel is far more expensive to make than fossil gasoline). This story, and that in note 1, provide some support to the Hydrogen Council’s assertion this week that the future of clean hydrogen remains robust. I was particularly struck by their estimate that only about 50 hydrogen projects have been cancelled out of the 1,700 announced globally since 2020. Of course it’s the cancellations that attract the media attention.

    3, ‘Agrivoltaics’. Some of the resistance to widespread use of solar PV in open fields arises from the perceived loss of agricultural production. So research that shows that solar panels can often help increase yields has particular importance. Studies in Washington State on apples showed that panels raised above the height of apple trees can reduce ‘sunburn’ and thus significantly improve the quality of the fruits. Work on lettuces showed a yield loss of only 10% when placed under panels, implying a far higher combined output than either the vegetable or electricity on its own. In France, where PV development on farmland is heavily restricted and often very unpopular, some research shows increases in farm output after PV is installed. Under current rules this boost may help secure permission to develop commercial PV. In our small village in the south-west a recent application from a brave solar developer estimates a 150% increase in agricultural output from siting vegetable production in raised beds between rows of panels rather than growing cereals. Crucially, this increase in productivity comes partly from irrigating the vegetables using water collected in gutters attached to the bottom edge of the panels.

    4, Recycling textiles. You might think that your clothes are made from pure cotton or other fabrics. You’d probably be wrong; almost everything is a mixture of multiple materials. And this makes recycling far more difficult, and often impossible. Samsara Eco in Australia took another important step in completing its first commercial factory which can break down the nylon and the polyester in a single garment using enzymes. Its first clients include the sports fashion brand Lulelemon. The company says it expects to develop similar enzymes that can break a wider range of plastics down into their constituent monomers from the same piece of clothing. Samsara Eco uses what is known as ‘chemical’ recycling to achieve this important success. Another recycling innovator, Re&Up in the Netherlands, employs ‘thermal’ and ‘mechanical’ techniques to recycle polyester. One of the women’s brands under the Swedish BESTSELLER marque has started selling T-shirts made using the Re&Up technologies. All these approaches have a long way to go; only about 1% of all clothing textiles are currently recycled globally.

    5, Floating wind. Another project in the Mediterranean completed turbine installations. This 30 MW field off the coast of southern France uses the triangular structures of the US company Principle Power, which seems to be the leading company in what may be a rapidly growing industry. The new French project is equipped with the largest turbines yet installed on floating foundations and, equally importantly, is financed by banks on non-recourse terms, suggesting a high degree of confidence in the technical maturity of floating wind. It’s a strange irony that the principal technology provider in this fast growing industry is headquartered in a country that is trying its best to hold back the development of all forms of wind power.

    6, BESS. The UK’s largest proposed battery storage system reached financial close and is expected to start operation in mid-2027. At 1400 MW/3100 MWh, the Thorpe Marsh project is three times as large as any other UK site and, at least according to one source I looked at, would have the greatest power output of any BESS in the world if it was working today. 80% of its capacity has already been contracted to big electricity suppliers. The UK currently has about 7 GW of installed batteries, meaning that Thorpe Marsh would add about 20% to today’s total. For comparison, Germany will have about 3 GW of BESS at the end of 2025, after roughly doubling this year.

    7, Enhanced rock weathering (ERW). Finely ground silicate rock powder spread over agricultural land can absorb carbon dioxide, turning into a permanent carbonate mineral. This is a natural process which is no more than an acceleration of the slow absorption of CO2 by the weathering of larger rocks over the course of planetary history. In addition to carbon capture, the silicate powder can provide potassium and phosphorus to the soil, improving fertility. The arguments for using ERW to extract carbon dioxide are strong but the energy cost of grinding rocks into dust is high, reducing the climate benefit. ‘Glacial rock flour’ avoids this problem. The slow movement of glaciers grinds the underlying rocks into tiny particles which wash out in meltwater. A Danish company raised seed financing to exploit Greenland’s abundant ‘rock flour’. One estimate is that this country’s glaciers produce as much as a billion tonnes of the material a year. Shipped to warmer countries, where chemical reaction times are much quicker, the particles may absorb as much of 25% of their weight in CO2 in the first year, as well as improving agricultural yields on many soils. Got some agricultural land which needs natural fertilisers? The Rock Flour Company wants to persuade regenerative farmers around the world to try its product.

    8, Organic fertiliser. Nitricity makes a fertiliser from agricultural wastes such as almond shells. The product delivers nitrogen and other nutrients to the soil in irrigation water. The business claims its product is cost competitive with fossil fuel based fertilisers and can deliver up to 30%+ increases in yield. It announced it had raised $50m to expand internationally from its Californian base. In Europe, for example, its raw material might be olive oil wastes rather than almond shells. Decarbonising fertiliser production (perhaps 2-3% of global emissions) is an important objective but, as always, I worry that existing levels of organic wastes are far from sufficient to fully replace ammonia-based fertilisers given the large number of other calls on this source of carbon and hydrogen. Nevertheless, for regenerative farmers this product looks exceptionally useful and may be one of the best uses of waste biomass.

    9, Long distance hydrogen transport. Countries with large hydrogen manufacturing potential are examining different ways of transporting it to customers. A Malaysian company will ship its first H2 to Singapore in the form of a metal hydride, a solid that is stable at normal temperatures. In this case, a complex structure of magnesium atoms binds with the hydrogen to make the hydride. After transport to the customer the hydrogen is driven off by heat at its destination. The magnesium can then be indefinitely recycled. This process historically has used large amounts of energy but recent advances by the Chinese company Hydrexia operating in Malaysia have reduced the burden significantly. The advantages of using metal hydride include enhanced safety and the ability to develop a distribution network with limited initial capital expenditure. Whether it is suitable for shipping very large quantities cheaply is another question.

    10, Making grids more intelligent using batteries. E.ON in the UK will use a technology developed in Australia to run a 1000 home trial using the battery systems of domestic homes, particularly those also equipped with solar PV, to help stabilise the grid. AI will forecast the half hourly wholesale electricity prices, when solar power will be produced and what electricity demand the house will need. It will then use these forecasts to determine when to charge and when to discharge the batteries in each home. In a very different experiment that also seeks to adapt electricity demand to market conditions, Californian batteries in 100,000 domestic homes were called on to deliver power at a time of high demand. Over half a gigawatt was delivered for two hours, roughly replacing a gas-fired power station. This yearly experiment is growing in size with expectations of being able to deliver over a gigawatt by 2028. That’s still a small fraction of total peak Californian electricity demand but it will help control sharp increases in wholesale prices.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 28kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • QrizB
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    edited 15 September at 6:57AM
    I've shared this link on the main Energy board too:
    My best-case expectation is that it'll cost twice as much and arrive 5+ years late.
    For comparison £40bn would buy you something like 1TWh (40 GW-days) of BESS or 20 million installed V2G chargers (roughly one per vehicle-owning household).
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  • Coastalwatch
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    QrizB said:
    I've shared this link on the main Energy board too:
    My best-case expectation is that it'll cost twice as much and arrive 5+ years late.
    For comparison £40bn would buy you something like 1TWh (40 GW-days) of BESS or 20 million installed V2G chargers (roughly one per vehicle-owning household).

    Speaking of energy security, other than lots of spent nuclear fuel I'm not totally sure that the UK has any stocks of Uranium or Plutonium to supply them with!
    Perhaps someone who is more knowledgeable on the matter would be kind enough to put my mind at rest here please?
    East coast, lat 51.97. 8.26kw SSE, 23° pitch + 0.59kw WSW vertical. Nissan Leaf plus Zappi charger and 2 x ASHP's. Givenergy 8.2 & 9.5 kWh batts, 2 x 3 kW ac inverters. Indra V2H . CoCharger Host, Interest in Ripple Energy & Abundance.
  • QrizB
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    edited 15 September at 9:40PM
    QrizB said:
    I've shared this link on the main Energy board too:
    My best-case expectation is that it'll cost twice as much and arrive 5+ years late.
    For comparison £40bn would buy you something like 1TWh (40 GW-days) of BESS or 20 million installed V2G chargers (roughly one per vehicle-owning household).
    Speaking of energy security, other than lots of spent nuclear fuel I'm not totally sure that the UK has any stocks of Uranium or Plutonium to supply them with!
    Perhaps someone who is more knowledgeable on the matter would be kind enough to put my mind at rest here please?
    As I understand it (and my O-level in Geology was 4 decades ago) the UK has uranium deposits but they're hard to get to and thus expensive. They're not being commecially exploited at the moment and it would be a big job to change that; Wikipedia (link) suggests most current production is from Kazakhstan, then Namibia, Canada, Australia, Uzekistan and Russia.
    So a couple of friendly names there, at least.
    The UK's enrichment capabilities at Capenhurst belong to Urenco (link), an Anglo-Dutch-German conglomerate. Whether Capenhurst has the capacity to supply UK nuclear new build is anyones guess, but they did get a bit of a government bung last year (link) so they're probably still in business.
    When it comes to plutonium, Sellafield supposedly has the world's largest stockpile of the stuff which is a bit of a mixed blessing as it's mostly useless and they're planning to put it all at the bottom of a big hole and hope it goes away by itself over the next quarter of a million years or so (link). I doubt any of the proposed reactors will be fuelled by plutonium, in whole or part.
    And of course Sellafield got out of the reprocessing business a little while ago when they shut THORP (link).
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill Coop member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
  • Coastalwatch
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    Thanks QrizB, interesting stuff although given the nuclear industries past record I'm less than convinced of a cost effective let alone timely completion of any generating capacity. 
    I suspect that by the time any of it comes online the carbon debt incurred from it's develpoment and manufacture is unlikely to ever be paid off due to the cleanliness of the grid by then. ie lack of CO2 emissions etc.it is supposed to displace.
    East coast, lat 51.97. 8.26kw SSE, 23° pitch + 0.59kw WSW vertical. Nissan Leaf plus Zappi charger and 2 x ASHP's. Givenergy 8.2 & 9.5 kWh batts, 2 x 3 kW ac inverters. Indra V2H . CoCharger Host, Interest in Ripple Energy & Abundance.
  • debitcardmayhem
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    edited 16 September at 6:44PM
    4.8kWp 12x400W Longhi 9.6 kWh battery Giv-hy 5.0 Inverter, WSW facing Essex . Aint no sunshine ☀️ Octopus gas fixed dec 24 @ 5.74 tracker again+ Octopus Intelligent Flux leccy
  • QrizB
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    It's an opinion, I guess.
    Although it's also an article providing an editorial opinion based on a paywalled podcast, which we can't check. So there's no way to know whether the esteemed economist said any of those things in that context.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill Coop member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
  • NigeWick
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    Net zero killing British industries
    I prefer Tony Seba's take on the way electricity generation and industries will go as he's been proven correct on numerous occasions.
    The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.
    Oliver Wendell Holmes
  • MattMattMattUK
    MattMattMattUK Posts: 11,530 Forumite
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    Net zero killing British industries
    No it is not, a poorly managed energy policy over the last fifty years is negatively impacting energy intensive parts of British industry, but I guess that does not have quite the same ring in a headline. 
  • Martyn1981
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    Thought this was very interesting. It's a large scale MDES (medium duration energy storage) project, using A-CAES (advanced compressed air energy storage). CAES has the potential for vast amounts of energy storage, providing long term storage. In the UK, we could potentially roll out 10's of TWh of LDES with CAES. The same may be true for green H2 (produced with the excess RE), but A-CAES has the potential for ~65% or better RTE (round trip efficiency), whereas H2 is probably lower (and more complicated). Both would use vast underground storage, such as old FF wells, or saline caverns.

    For now, LDES is not needed, but it's great to see A-CAES being developed and tested, as that will help guide us for LDES roles.

    Advanced compressed air energy storage: Hydrostor secures US$55 million for 1.6GWh Australia project

    Hydrostor has secured US$55 million in funding from Export Development Canada (EDC) to advance development activities for its 200MW/1,600MWh Silver City Energy Storage Centre project in Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia.

    According to the Toronto-based long-duration energy storage (LDES) developer, the advanced compressed air energy storage (A-CAES) project will be capable of powering the entire town without a direct connection to the National Electricity Market (NEM).

    It will operate as backup generation during planned or unplanned outages to prevent blackouts.

    The Silver City Energy Storage Centre will provide eight hours of storage duration at full output capacity. It is designed to replace ageing diesel generators nearing end-of-life while providing crucial grid stability services to the broader network.

    Hydrostor’s CEO, Curtis VanWalleghem, said the EDC funding advances their Silver City project while demonstrating growing global support for long-duration energy storage, particularly their A-CAES technology.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 28kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
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