Anything else we can do? Quiet enjoyment of garden

fairy_lights

robotrobo wrote: »

NO mention of a cup of tea & a friendly chat !!.

im afraid i would not work:rotfl::rotfl: for you , full stop

Why should OP offer him a cup of tea and a chat? She isn't employing him and didn't ask for him to be there.

thesaint

lisyloo wrote: »

This is exactly the point.
This chap turning up unnanouced is stopping her having quiet enjoyment of he property.
Why should she give that up simply because he can't be bothered to text?

The gardener is not preventing anyone from having "quiet enjoyment" of anything.

franklee

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

We are going to provide a gardener when we rent our house out (initially it will be my husband), and will text before arriving.

Not sure that's a good idea, it's one thing having a disinterested gardener but I'd not be happy with the ex-homeowner/landlord visiting the garden on a weekly basis. It would feel too much like being checked up on and would have an impact on the quiet enjoyment of the property. When you let out your former loved home and garden you really have to take a step back, quarterly visits at most. Maybe let the garden go or employ someone else to garden. If the tenant is contracted to maintain the garden then they should anyway especially if it's a fairly small garden.

franklee

thesaint wrote: »

The gardener is not preventing anyone from having "quiet enjoyment" of anything.

I couldn't relax in my garden if a bloke I didn't much know is gardening round me. Remember when a tenant rents a property it includes the garden too unless explicitly excluded from the let.

Fraise

CharlieRabbit01 wrote: »

Hi

I live in a ground floor flat with front and rear gardens, we've been here for just over 2 years.

Over the last two years a gardener has randomly appeared unannounced and cleared the gardens.

We don't mind a gardener coming if this is the landlords wishes but we object to him turning up unannounced.

We have written to our LA and told them this each time the gardener has appeared stating that it is disconcerting to come home and find the garden dug up or walking past the windows to see someone there.

The latest incident was yesterday and we have contacted them again.

I have also spoke to the gardener on teh occasions I have seen him and gave him my mobile number as he said he pops round weather dependent so I said well just text me then, which he hasn't.

Is there anything else we can do? I presume "quiet enjoyment" also applies to the garden which is in my tenancy agreement?

If the gardener who your landlord employs to clear the garden were to text you each time he was in his way, what difference would it make to you? You're aware a gardener comes round every so many weeks (weather depending) and he doesn't have to enter your flat, he just goes into the garden and does his job. Ok, it might be polite to text you each time he's on his way, but maybe he thinks it's unnecessary as a) he's nit disturbing you..Louie inside your flat and b) he's working for the landlord, not you.

You're lucky the landlord provides a gardener, and it sounds like you resent him coming round. The landlord is being very kind in having the garden done, he could have put in your rental agreement that you had to maintain it.

When my window cleaner comes round he doesn't text me beforehand, and when my gardener comes round he doesn't either....he just turns up on the da.

I think you're being difficult and all because you want him to text you. He clearly isn't going to, and the landlord wants his property maintained, so maybe you should just move.

datlex

comeandgo wrote: »

You say you live in a flat, is the garden yours only or do the other flats have use of it too?

I would be surprised if the back garden was only for use of the groundfloor flat

CharlieRabbit01 wrote: »

When I have seen him we have spoken he's a very pleasant chap and has expressed his surprise that I didn't know he was coming.

I have asked him to come back at more convenient times when it hasn't been convenient for him to be there.

He is able to just walk in the back gate. a brief explanation of the layout - front garden is on the road (i accept I can't stop people going in it, but its not nice coming home to find some has been in there digging it up) the rear garden is though a shared access gate (private for myself, upstairs and the unrelated property behind us) accross the parking spaces and onto my garden.

The front has gardeners garter which I know can be unruly if not kept under control, yesterday he had been round whilst I was at work and ripped half of it up and stacked the rubbish bags against my wall.



It was the gardeners offer/suggestion to send a text to me, as we agreed that he couldn't always know when he was coming due to the weather etc.

I don't think I am being unreasonable in asking for a text or call to say I was hoping to come round to do the garden today is that convenient?

I always do my best to accommodate and as long as I know about it there is no problem.

G_M wrote: »

Padlock on the side gate.

Get copies of the keys and give them to upstairs and the property behind. Explain it's for increased security to stop unauthorised people coming in.

20 posts with lots of ideas/suggestions. Not sure why this is so hard. Just pick up one or more of the ideas and get on with it!

thing is upstairs have the right not to have a padlock on the gate and may be happy with the gardener coming. Clearly it is impossible to have quiet enjoyment of the garden if it is shared, neighbours for example may make use of it on occasion for a bbq. What I would complain about to the Landlord is the state it is left in.

CharlieRabbit01

Fraise wrote: »

If the gardener who your landlord employs to clear the garden were to text you each time he was in his way, what difference would it make to you? You're aware a gardener comes round every so many weeks (weather depending) and he doesn't have to enter your flat, he just goes into the garden and does his job. Ok, it might be polite to text you each time he's on his way, but maybe he thinks it's unnecessary as a) he's nit disturbing you..Louie inside your flat and b) he's working for the landlord, not you.

When my window cleaner comes round he doesn't text me beforehand, and when my gardener comes round he doesn't either....he just turns up on the da.

we used to have a window cleaner in my old flat he came usually around the beginning of every other month, which was fine no notice required.

The gardener here turns up sporadically, I'd not seen him since October and he's been round 3 times in the past week, once to rip out the gardeners garter, again to collect waste when I reminded him not to come unannounced he said he was finished, I got home today to find more work done.

I'm waiting for a response from LA.

Both gardens are mine, they are not shared. Upstairs have a parking space only.

We took the flat for the private garden.