Any ideas of rough cost for total refurb??

ds1980

I don't need to justify myself. I do it all the time so I know how much things will cost. The house is rented and it'll serve no purpose spending that money as I just won't see the returns. What I do know is that it'll all be done on that. The kitchen is £700 as I ve already bought it in b and q. The fitters will need a day and they're £100 a day. Tips like the other bloke says. Don't pay extra on materials. That's scandulous. I can pretty much guarantee I'll get most things cheaper than most trades people anyway. An example today was I had some concrete delivered for another project. I only needed about 1m3. Most people had minimum delivery amounts etc and the cheapest I was quoted was £220. I could have done it myself but that was still £100 on materials and a day for me to mix it. After some phone calls and messages (and a fair bit of my time ) a guy turns up with some surplus load which I give him a nifty for. You can see how things will get expensive if you just go with what you're meant to pay.

I had quotes as I don't live near to said property but I just couldnt bring myself to do it even though it's going to be much more hassle. I couldn't bear the 3k VAT to start with. I know it's all claimable but I'd rather spend the money saved on the more important things in life like a nice case of mouton Rothschild. 😛 i say it a lot. It's not for everyone but this is a moneysaving website and hopefully people can save money with advice that people give.

Dannytyler

send me your kitchen fitters number?!! £100 a day!....... charge that for 2 mitres and a sink cut out....

martinsurrey

Dannytyler wrote: »

send me your kitchen fitters number?!! £100 a day!....... charge that for 2 mitres and a sink cut out....

but you see installation is really cheap when you use quality components, I mean for £700 you would be getting solid units with made to measure worktops and high end appliances... it'll practically build its self for that kind of money!

or not.

Doozergirl

Dannytyler wrote: »

send me your kitchen fitters number?!! £100 a day!....... charge that for 2 mitres and a sink cut out....

My labourers get circa £100 a day. I wouldn't let them fit even a £700 kitchen.

Ultimately, it is possible to save money, but it often comes at the cost of time, and that has varying values depending on who you are.

A decent quality 'total refurb' as quoted in the OP doesn't cost £10k. A partial could if you 'do it all the time' and place no value on your own labour or, erm, other people's; if a good quality kitchen fitter costs £100 a day

The most basic pf total refurbs to someone who does it all the time is easily going to cost £15k. Someone who needs the help and expects a standard of work and product in their own home, £30k is certainly realistic.

The only argument can be what constitutes a total refurb. Total means total, to me. Experience says if it needs x and y, then z will be revealed as needing doing as well.

Joanthebone

I am just coming to the end of a total refurb of my flat. The plan is for it to be my 'forever' home and I am up to about £30k. Total rewire, new kitchen, bathroom, a lot of new radiators, wood burning stove, some plastering, new flooring throughout and new windows... I did joke to a friend the other day when we were talking about quotes, I said 'It'll be £3k, they are always £3k!'. There are always the 'little things' like paint and it soon adds up!


Where I am nobody works for less than £150 a day.

Davesnave

Doozergirl wrote: »

The only argument can be what constitutes a total refurb. Total means total, to me. Experience says if it needs x and y, then z will be revealed as needing doing as well.

Yes, especially the z....which even if it's something you could get away with, makes no sense when you've spent so much already.

( Had a few Z-type ceilings recently! )

Dan-1987

I'm halfway through a full refurb of our 1st house,what you don't mention or ive not seen asked is are you planning to do the work yourselves? This makes a HUGE difference! If you are I personally think you'd easy be able to do that lot for 10k.I really can't see that being a problem,generally speaking,if you stayed disciplined/resourceful

As an idea,on our 3 bed semi (I've done most myself and had mates rates on a couple of things) we've done everything from knockthroughs,blocked up doors,full rewire,boiler move,re plastered everything bar 2 ceilings,new bathroom,new kitchen,reworked chimney breast,laminate floor all downstairs,carpet upstairs,2 new ceilings,opened up under stairs,repaired window mechs/handles,relocated radiators and bought new kitchen appliances-oven,hob,washing machine for less than 10k so can definitely be done if you put your mind to it

pendragon_arther

Our neighbour bought my mum's 3br terraced house which needed kitchen and bathroom doing, all walls skimming and decorating throughout. Plumbing, heating and electrics were okay. He allowed a budget of 15 - 20k.

ds1980

Kitchen fitter, joiner, general builder they're all the same. But i wouldn't be paying anyone more than £10-£15 an hour that's for sure. The best joiners ive ever used are £150 a day, and 2 of them will fit a kitchen in a day usually. They built my loft in 3 weeks but a company wanted £20k to do the same job. You can do the maths.

The kitchen is exactly the same as is in my own house. We've had it for 7 years. Still looks new and never had an issue. My house is worth 10X the value of the refurb'ed one and therefore if its its good enough in there itll be good enough for said property. This doesn't include appliances which are already there.

People's perception of quality and snobbery always makes me laugh. Kitchens costing upto ~£10k are basically all the same. Howdens, b&q, wickes, ikea, homebase, wren etc ive fitted them all and basically they're all the same. The prices vary wildly depending on when you buy and how much you haggle. It's a rented property so im hardly going to put in a kitchen from http://www.john-lewis.co.uk/aim/ in there.

The builders and people in the business always like to ramp up their worth and shoot down the people that can get things done cheaper but you can make your own decisions about whats possible and whats available to you.

Doozergirl

No one needs to ramp up their worth on here; there's room for everyone to do whatever they like. I've done the whole money saving thing, and I know how and where to do it and how much time it takes.

There is not one answer to the OP. So where you think £30k is 'beyond you', others think that touting £8k as an example of a total renovation (which it is not, and the exclusions list is growing) is also beyond the capability of most people to pull off. Feel free to pat yourself on the back.

Kitchens, bathrooms, carpet and paint are, to me, what happens after the renovation has happened. The value lies in the fabric of the building.