How will the economy be affected by SNP MPs; will it be for richer or for poorer and

Tromking

CLAPTON wrote: »

I didn't realise your 'human condition searching endlessly ....' only included white people in Europe.
Easy mistake to make.

Easy mistake, and you made it.
I don`t recall saying that Western countries had a monopoly on the advancement of the human condition, I think I used the words "best chance".

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Salmond rebuked

Salmon, the SNP spokesperson on foreign affairs, showed an old-fashioned side of his character in the Commons when he said

"Behave yourself, woman" to Small Business Minister Anna Soubry.

He was of course defended by the SNP Shadow Minister for Funny Excuses.

IveSeenTheLight

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Salmond rebuked

Salmon, the SNP spokesperson on foreign affairs, showed an old-fashioned side of his character in the Commons when he said

"Behave yourself, woman" to Small Business Minister Anna Soubry.

He was of course defended by the SNP Shadow Minister for Funny Excuses.

Not defending him of course, but he is guilty of using local language and his something his generation would likely have said.

I've at times said to my mates to "behave yersel min" (behave yourself man) but to be fair, If I was addressing a woman, I would just say "behave yersel". The woman part in the modern day could be construed as condescending, but for a man, they take it on the chin. Why is that?

I recall in my youth while working in Yorkshire, getting annoyed when both men and women reffered to me as "love". I kept thinking, I'm not your love, but in the end accepted their localism as opposed to being offended by it.

CLAPTON

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Not defending him of course, but he is guilty of using local language and his something his generation would likely have said.

I've at times said to my mates to "behave yersel min" (behave yourself man) but to be fair, If I was addressing a woman, I would just say "behave yersel". The woman part in the modern day could be construed as condescending, but for a man, they take it on the chin. Why is that?

I recall in my youth while working in Yorkshire, getting annoyed when both men and women reffered to me as "love". I kept thinking, I'm not your love, but in the end accepted their localism as opposed to being offended by it.

so you are excusing him.......................

IveSeenTheLight

CLAPTON wrote: »

so you are excusing him.......................

No, just explaining local colloquialism and maybe, you just need to take these things with a pinch of salt as opposed to being offended by them

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Good try ISTL ! No problem with what you say about local customs and so on; although I don't think Salmond was talking some local dialect, and anyway you missed the point.

Salmon was touted as the person who knew so much about the way Westminster works that he would "run rings" around everyone (although the sense or point of such claims escape me), so it's kind of amusing to see him get his comeuppance.

I look forward to the time when he talks to Merkel

IveSeenTheLight

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Good try ISTL ! No problem with what you say about local customs and so on

Reminds me of the time I suggested tot he father in law that we go to Manchester with the better halves.

when I said that the girls could go shopping, he immediately told me to "behave yersel min".

However when I proposed that at the same time we would go to Old Trafford, he thought it was a great idea

IveSeenTheLight

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Salmond rebuked

Salmon, the SNP spokesperson on foreign affairs, showed an old-fashioned side of his character in the Commons when he said

"Behave yourself, woman" to Small Business Minister Anna Soubry.

He was of course defended by the SNP Shadow Minister for Funny Excuses.

Interestingly, I came across this

House of Commons Hansard Debates for 05 Feb 2014

Mr Speaker: Order. Mr Ruane, you are an incorrigible delinquent at times. Behave yourself man.

Should Mr Speaker have been rebuked and lauded as a sexist?

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IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Interestingly, I came across this

House of Commons Hansard jut for 05 Feb 2014


Should Mr Speaker have been rebuked and lauded as a sexist?

In making a clearly humorous remark to a person of his own sex?

No.

Shakethedisease

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In making a clearly humorous remark to a person of his own sex?

No.

What about this comment yesterday then ? Humorous ?

Lucy Frazer MP for South East Cambridgeshire
"Cromwell who defeated the Scots at Dunbar enslaved and deported them - now there's an answer to the West Lothian problem"

I have to say, that it's pretty rich that you're getting all stuffy about so called 'sexist' comments when only a few weeks ago you and others in Scottish threads were slapping your thighs in mirth and insisting the likes of below were 'just a joke'.. or 'not to be taken seriously'. Humorous ? ( especially when accompanied with the headline 'Tartan Barmy' )...



So in light of your outrage over Salmond's comment, I do hope you can now finally agree that images such as this during the election campaign were sexist and deeply insulting to all female politicians, and indeed all aspiring young women thinking about entering politics.. and shouldn't have been used. Regardless of where the comment or image appears.

Otherwise, you're throwing stones in a glasshouse.