Notice to Keeper from an IPC affiliated company

Franc0is

Hi all,

Recently my partner received a notice to keeper parking charge for unauthorised parking in a permit holders only carpark. Having done some research and using the great advice on this site I challenged the charge. My reason for the challenge was that the notice to keeper was received 20 days after the parking took place. Therefore no keeper liability following POFA 2012.

We have subsequently received a response (very generic) from the parking company stating that they had considered my comments etc. etc. and that they were unable to cancel the parking charge.

The advice that I am seeking is as follows:

Would you recommend that I now go straight to appealing this with the IPC? (very aware that they will more than likely favour against me)

or

Should I write back to the parking company even though they have said that they would not enter into new or continued appeal.

The reason I am slightly unsure now is that a friend has recommended that I don't appeal to the IPC (IAS) as this is admitting that we accept the charge and are now appealing against it.

In addition to the lateness of the notice to keeper I have subsequently visited the site and examined the signage. It is my opinion that these are not adequate. I am 6'1" and cannot reach the bottom of the signs. Additionally the writing is rather small and you have to read down a few lines before it mentions requiring a permit.

I hope that all makes sense. Any advice or experience on this matter would be much appreciated.

F

enfield_freddy

please name and shame the company

Redx

there are 2 schools of thought , well documented on here over recent weeks and even over the last 7 days

1) appeal to the IAS within the 21 days window, 80% chance of failing at that stage (then ignore everything apart from an LBC or MCOL for the next 6 years)

2) IGNORE everything except an LBC or MCOL for the next 6 years

the choice is yours, nobody can predict the future so nobody can be sure if you do 1) or 2) , so any answers are pure conjecture , some say yes , appeal, others say no , ignore

nobody says pay up

writing again to the PPC is a waste of time and money as all they want is for you to pay , IN FULL (as martin lewis says in his credit card diatribes)

Franc0is

Company is Parking Solutions (Brighton based)

Umkomaas

Company is Parking Solutions (Brighton based)

Is that:

1. Combined Parking Solutions
2. Complete Parking Solutions
3. Island Parking Solutions, or
4. London Parking Solutions

All above are IPC members!

With all of this stuff you need to be accurate in what you tell us, and ultimately what you use in defending yourself.

The_Deep

Did your research include the V.A.T. timebomb which these companies are sitting on?

IPC affiliates operate a Contractual Charge mode. This means that they do not have to account for their losses, (GPEOL), but they do have to charge vat on the whole amount,

Therefore, if they have not mentioned it on their paperwork or signs they cannot claim that the amount demanded is a contractual charge, that might be tax evasion. It must therefore be damages for breach of contract orr, if they own the land, trespass.

These vat implications could very well be their undoing in court, but the IAS will almost certainly ignore them at appeal as too difficult. In slower time ask them for a vat invoice and if they demur shop them to the tax evasion hot line.

https://www.gov.uk/government/organi...ng-tax-evasion

More reading here:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...5437&highlight=

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...7925&highlight=

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/...3796&highlight=

Should you appeal to this kangaroo court? Should you appeal or not to a baiased, non-independent kangaroo court? The smart money says you should.

A heavily flawed adjudication from an anonymous adjudicator means that the PPC is unlikely to take you to court where you would be able to claim that the company failed to offer you a fair appeal.

Hot_Bring

Franc0is wrote: »

Company is Parking Solutions (Brighton based)

Do you not mean Parking Enforcement ?

I.E. - this bunch of tosspots - http://parkingenforcement.org.uk/

System

Sussex Security Solutions Ltd (Trading as Parking Enforcement)

From the IPC website

http://www.theipc.info/#!aos-members/cv75

Ignore

Hot_Bring

IamEmanresu wrote: »

Sussex Security Solutions Ltd (Trading as Parking Enforcement)

From the IPC website

http://www.theipc.info/#!aos-members/cv75

Ignore

I would entirely agree if the OP meant Parking Enforcement ). Bunch of cowboys with a Liberal Democrat candidate and member at it's helm. Nice that politics allows such scum to join.

Franc0is

Sorry, yes that is them. Parking Enforcement trading name of Sussex Security Solutions.

Umkomaas

Company is Parking Solutions (Brighton based)

Is that:

1. Combined Parking Solutions
2. Complete Parking Solutions
3. Island Parking Solutions, or
4. London Parking Solutions

All above are IPC members!

Franc0is wrote: »

Sorry, yes that is them. Parking Enforcement trading name of Sussex Security Solutions.

Well. That was close enough I guess! :rotfl: