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PlutoinCapricorn

Have you read this thread:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/68013679#Comment_68013679

SandC

Prunesquallor, for some weird reason that I have yet to fathom out, moaners and whingers seem to do particularly well for themselves. This has applied in every firm I've worked for.

I suspect you'll do okay should you decide to take that step and leave for bigger/better things. Rather have your attitude a million times over.

PlutoinCapricorn

How did you learn how much these other people are getting?

prunesquallor

There were 2 more points on this:

- 2 years ago a slightly higher position in the team became available. A few of us went for it, including the colleague, however I got the role. Which should imply that they rate me more - even if just a little. Little did I know that she was on more than me whilst in a lower ranked role.
- The offending colleague told me herself when we discussed pay that she thought I would be on more than her...

The issue I have is that if any of the arguments people on here have raised is true, it would be contradicted by one of the other points in my lists.

PlutoinCapricorn wrote: »

How did you learn how much these other people are getting?

The two of us were discussing pay openly so we told each other directly. Not sure it's something I'll be doing ever again...

All of the above and one person in my team is at risk of redundancy (we don't know who yet). Her team isn't at risk.

All I can do is get on with developing my skills but it's now difficult to not think about this scenario and be flustered by it.

prunesquallor

Ah... Slight development on this. Just found out from this person that they're leaving. And obviously going to a bigger salary too. Good for her - I don't begrudge her that at all as she wasn't happy here. But not happy with management. When we had our salary chat, she had already told managers she was leaving so not sure whether she just wanted to know my pay or was giving me a kick to start looking.

Either way, I think that really is the final nail however I would like to gain experience on this new technology first just to increase my own marketability. So possibly 6 months, do people think that would be enough time to declare Salesforce as a skill in the CV?

PlutoinCapricorn

She has shown you what is possible. You could probably do even better.

The depth of experience is important too: three years doing the same old thing is worse than one year with a variety of experience.

This should inspire you:

http://www.masonfrank.com/jobs/roles/consultants

prunesquallor

PlutoinCapricorn wrote: »

She has shown you what is possible. You could probably do even better.

The depth of experience is important too: three years doing the same old thing is worse than one year with a variety of experience.

This should inspire you:

http://www.masonfrank.com/jobs/roles/consultants

Thanks, yes if anything this has given me the kick up the backside I needed and the Salesforce project we're now taking on is a blessing - I hope this ultimately gives me a way out. Although I'm curious as to why she wanted to discuss salaries after she'd already accepted her job offer.

I think the role she was covering was a fair bit beneath her and she was bored. That would explain how she got offered a better job elsewhere.

Does anyone know of any way I might be able to fast track my Salesforce capability? I'm going to an official Salesforce event this Thursday so I can ask that same question then, but perhaps some one here might have done this before? The project I will be involved with will be relatively simple and it should only take 1/2 months worth of setting up plus a few months of support. So I feel I need to do additional work to build up my experience/ability.

Reggie_Rebel

prunesquallor wrote: »

The two of us were discussing pay openly so we told each other directly. Not sure it's something I'll be doing ever again...

BREAKING NEWS - People lie about their salary. Unless you've seen it on a payslip take it with a pinch of salt.

prunesquallor

She's leaving so she has nothing to gain from lying about that, plus she's going to a higher salary anyway. Fact is, she was being paid more for doing less work - both technically and in terms of volume - for no logical reason (all possible reasons refuted above). What leaves a bad taste is that managers allowed it to happen. They act as though everything is fine but clearly behind the scenes this is plain favouritism and all I can do is leave.

But, whilst I develop my Salesforce skills, every time I attend the office I'm reminded of this yet I need to be two faced, pretending nothing is wrong, until I'm in a position to bounce...

Reggie_Rebel

prunesquallor wrote: »

She's leaving so she has nothing to gain from lying about that, plus she's going to a higher salary anyway.

Were salaries discussed before she got the new job, have you seen the salary she's moving to on an offer letter? Again it comes back to the basic fact that you probably have no proof and could well be getting worked up for nothing.

I always work on the basis that my salary is my salary and what other people do or don't earn is no concern of mine. If I'm happy with the salary I'm paid for the job I do then great, if not do something about it.

What you are doing is getting unhappy of what you perceive someone else is earning. That's a bit of a perverse way to look at it and if you carry on with that view you will give yourself a load of unnecessary stress