Transferring Windows 7 to a new PC

NiftyDigits

gjchester wrote: »

Didn't say it made sense, only that the Oracle case was about selling OEM software, not re-using it yourself. There has been no test in the UK courts that I'm aware of that Windows OEM software can be installed on a new system if removed from the Old PC, so its all an unknown.



Will it activate is not a test of is it a legal copy.

Lets say I bought a copy of Windows with a key made by a Key Generator. It may activate, but that does not automatically make it a legal copy, and the nature of Windows update means that key may be invalidated later (as Microsoft have done before)




It was more that the OP has a key and you and jbainbridge commented that the OP could download an image to retore Windows. The link you gave could be OEM rather than retail.

Microsoft used to allow Digital River to host images, then they stopped it. Microsoft DO host ISO of Win 7 online but will only work with retail keys, and will not validate the key typically on OEM stickers to proceed to a download.

Will Microsoft chase an end user of this, almost certainly not but money saving should not be about breaking the law not offering solutions that may encourage others to do so.

I know people think Microsoft is a big company and won't notice, and its nice to stick it to the man. But think of it another way, what if you wrote software for a living, would you want people installing that software where they pleased and on as many computers as they can, regardless of any rules you put in place?

Are you still wasting time with this nonsense??

We aren't talking about generated keys, we are writing about a legitimate key. So forget about making up ludicrous scenarios to bolster your 'argument'.
If it activates online it will stay activated, if it doesn't Microsoft will activate it via Telephone Activation. Either action will make it a genuine activation.

As to the nonsense about OEM and Retail, there need be no difference in the media, unless the OEM decides to customise.
The is no such thing as a Retail disc in this case. What is important is the Key or method of activation.

The link I have provided is exactly as described. The nonsense you have written, that it could be OEM, not Retail, is just that.

It is exactly as described: Windows 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (x64) - DVD (English) (en_windows_7_home_premium_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_676549.iso)

A cursory check will have shown this.

Exactly the image as downloaded via Digital River and/or released via MSDN. A Hash Check will confirm.

How it behaves depends on the Product Key/method of activation.

You can use a Retail key or OEM.

As to your other nonsense...the OP stated clearly that it will not be installed on more than one machine.
If you think that Microsoft will be unhappy with that state of affairs, you are deluded.
You are misinterpreting their T&C. It is there to prevent abuse, not to inconvenience customers who paid for a genuine licence, OEM or otherwise.

I know.

NiftyDigits

weeowens wrote: »

I do see what you are saying. I just want a PC that works & cannot be doing with the downtime while I sort it out.
Hopefully I will find the disc & another user will get the benefit of my idiocy.

Have you read?? You do not need the disc. You can ignore the misleading misinformation posted by gjchester.

The disc is generic. The download is the exact disc released by Microsoft. What is unique is the key. You can retrieve it from your old install and use it with the installed disc.
If it detects the key has been used previously, you can call Microsoft's telephone activation and tell them(if necessary), that you've changed your Motherboard. They will give you a code for activation. That's it.
Download the disc, create a DVD or bootabe USB drive, install and activate.

NiftyDigits

Anyway, what is wrong with your current PC? Some details could be helpful.

weeowens

In normal use it has gone very slow & I cannot open such as Chrome & FireFox.
I tried to install Garmin Express & it failed.

NiftyDigits

weeowens wrote: »

In normal use it has gone very slow & I cannot open such as Chrome & FireFox.
I tried to install Garmin Express & it failed.

Brand name and model etc

Have you run any malware scans?

gjchester

NiftyDigits wrote: »

If it activates online it will stay activated, if it doesn't Microsoft will activate it via Telephone Activation. Either action will make it a genuine activation.

Microsoft can and do have the ability to turn of installs, Activation is not a guarantee the software's a legitimate licenced copy.


http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-activation-technologies-an-unauthorized-inside-look/
This was aimed at system where there were hacks, not quite genuine keys, but it shows Microsoft can and so block keys.


http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2009/07/microsoft-blacklists-lenovos-leaked-windows-7-oem-key/
This was where Lenovo had a master key blacklisted.

NiftyDigits wrote: »

You are misinterpreting their T&C. It is there to prevent abuse, not to inconvenience customers who paid for a genuine licence, OEM or otherwise.

I know.

OEM software dies with the PC (and Microsoft defined the core component of the PC as a motherboard), that's why OEM is a little cheaper than full retail. This is NOT a motherboard swap due to faults but a new PC. Transferring it to another machine as the OP wants, however successful, is against the licence terms.

No licence no legit software.

A you don't like the line from Microsoft take a look here http://www.fast.org.uk/guidance-home-computer-users


What is OEM Software?

OEM means Original Equipment Manufacturer and this software is pre-installed on a computer by the manufacturer of the computer itself before the point of sale.

• Once loaded the hardware and software to all intents and purposes become one unit. They cannot be separated. The software licence will state that the transfer of ownership of the software is only permitted as part of a sale or transfer of the computer.

If the OP wants to load the software on a new PC breaking the licence that's their choice, however they should understand what they are doing not be told its OK to do when its clearly not.

Moto2

gjchester wrote: »

Royalty (HP, Dell, IBM etc) OEM keys are often rejected by the automated systems and you get to talk to a person. It no harder to do that but don't be surprised if the code is rejected.

I probably activate 10 PCs per week with a Dell licence, most times (95%) the automated phone system activates it OK

NiftyDigits

gjchester wrote: »

Microsoft can and do have the ability to turn of installs, Activation is not a guarantee the software's a legitimate licenced copy.


http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-activation-technologies-an-unauthorized-inside-look/
This was aimed at system where there were hacks, not quite genuine keys, but it shows Microsoft can and so block keys.


http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2009/07/microsoft-blacklists-lenovos-leaked-windows-7-oem-key/
This was where Lenovo had a master key blacklisted.







OEM software dies with the PC (and Microsoft defined the core component of the PC as a motherboard), that's why OEM is a little cheaper than full retail. This is NOT a motherboard swap due to faults but a new PC. Transferring it to another machine as the OP wants, however successful, is against the licence terms.

No licence no legit software.

A you don't like the line from Microsoft take a look here http://www.fast.org.uk/guidance-home-computer-users


What is OEM Software?

OEM means Original Equipment Manufacturer and this software is pre-installed on a computer by the manufacturer of the computer itself before the point of sale.

• Once loaded the hardware and software to all intents and purposes become one unit. They cannot be separated. The software licence will state that the transfer of ownership of the software is only permitted as part of a sale or transfer of the computer.

If the OP wants to load the software on a new PC breaking the licence that's their choice, however they should understand what they are doing not be told its OK to do when its clearly not.

Are you actually this dopey?

Posting links to irrelevancies(Hacks, non genuine keys and blacklisting Royalty keys) and possibly confusing the OP with your nonsense.

Non of those has anything to do with the OP having a genuine purchased OEM licence (if this is the case).


Secondly OEM in your example, refers to Windows that is bundled with a PC, not software that the consumer has purchased separately.
In other words, they don't want people buying a PC with bundled software then using it on another machine without actually paying for a licence.

Nothing at all to do with OEM being cheaper. That is just nonsense you have read somewhere or have made up for yourself.
OEM was not really supposed to be sold to the consumer in the first place.
But you aren't then banging on that it was an illegitimate install in the first place, are you?

Please stop posting rubbish, possibly scaring the OP. I know exactly how the system works and how it is/was meant to work. I don't need to cut and paste a load of nonsense.

The OP can legitimately use her licence, as long as Microsoft allows her to activate it, either online or via Telephone activation.

You need to stop posting irrelevant nonsense.

tronator

gjchester wrote: »

A you don't like the line from Microsoft take a look here http://www.fast.org.uk/guidance-home-computer-users

Guess what side an organisation like the "Federation Against Software Theft" takes? Of course the side of the software producer.

Here are two other links

https://www.usedsoft.com/en/used-software/wiki/glossary/licence-law/oem-software/

https://www.usedsoft.com/en/archive/press-archive/press-releases/2009/trade-with-microsoft-oem-licenses/

I'm so happy that I don't have to deal with all this license cr*p at home, where everything runs Linux. Only in my job I have to support Windows PC's ...

weeowens

NiftyDigits wrote: »

Brand name and model etc

Have you run any malware scans?

No scans ran.
It is a Zoostrom via Ebuyer:

Processor
3.20 gigahertz Intel Pentium Dual-Core
64 kilobyte primary memory cache
2048 kilobyte secondary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (2 total)


Board: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5G41T-M LX2/GB Rev X.0x

251.00 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity