Minimum wage - petrol - explain please?

bylromarha

My friend has just had an interview for a 16 hour a week term time only job.

Pay is £7 an hour - BUT she gets no reimbursement for driving all around the area every day to different peoples homes for this job. It's expected to come out of her wages.

Is this legal, as I'm pretty sure that makes her pay under minimum wage?

Plus how does minimum wage work when it comes to term time only jobs?

Thanks

footyguy

bylromarha wrote: »

My friend has just had an interview for a 16 hour a week term time only job.

Pay is £7 an hour - BUT she gets no reimbursement for driving all around the area every day to different peoples homes for this job. It's expected to come out of her wages.

Is this legal, as I'm pretty sure that makes her pay under minimum wage?

Plus how does minimum wage work when it comes to term time only jobs?

Thanks

Mimimum wage works on hourly rate. It doesn't matter if she only works 1 hour per year.

She should be provided with a suitable company vehicle if the work involves driving to various locations. You get paid for working - not pay for the pleasure of working.

(You do have to fund yourself any travel to and from a permanent place of work - termed commuting)

Be aware that if she uses her own vehicle (with permission & fully expensed) for business, she would need business insurance cover too for her use of that vehicle.

bylromarha

footyguy wrote: »

Mimimum wage works on hourly rate. It doesn't matter if she only works 1 hour per year.

She should be provided with a suitable company vehicle if the work involves driving to various locations. You get paid for working - not pay for the pleasure of working.

(You do have to fund yourself any travel to and from a permanent place of work - termed commuting)

Be aware that if she uses her own vehicle (with permission & fully expensed) for business, she would need business insurance cover too for her use of that vehicle.

No company vehicle. No one place of work. No mileage paid if she uses her own vehicle. Nothing except an expectation that she will go from house to house doing her job for £7 an hour - and pay the petrol herself from that.

elsien

footyguy wrote: »

She should be provided with a suitable company vehicle if the work involves driving to various locations. .

According to whom? There are thousands of domiciliary care workers out there who use their own cars to travel between clients.
Does she log her mileage between jobs, as she may be able to claim tax relief on the mileage from HMRC. It's not unusual for care agencies not to pay mileage, unfortunately.

globalds

bylromarha wrote: »

No company vehicle. No one place of work. No mileage paid if she uses her own vehicle. Nothing except an expectation that she will go from house to house doing her job for £7 an hour - and pay the petrol herself from that.

No point working ..Unless it offers access to state benefits . Not sure what they would be if any that would make that kind of remuneration worthwhile.

I am guessing it is care for the elderly type work ?

bylromarha

elsien wrote: »

According to whom? There are thousands of domiciliary care workers out there who use their own cars to travel between clients.
Does she log her mileage between jobs, as she may be able to claim tax relief on the mileage from HMRC. It's not unusual for care agencies not to pay mileage, unfortunately.

I don't know about logging mileage as she was only interviewed for the job today.

Are you telling me it's normal in some careers that people pay their own petrol to do their job? What does tax relief look like per mile covered - do you know how this works please?

She will hear if she's got the job tomorrow - so she's calculating all the figures tonight to see if it's worth her while accepting the role or not.

Marktheshark

Oh she will get the "job"
She wont be making any money out of it.

bylromarha

globalds wrote: »

No point working ..Unless it offers access to state benefits . Not sure what they would be if any that would make that kind of remuneration worthwhile.

I am guessing it is care for the elderly type work ?

It's why she's doing all the sums to see if it's worth it. Love her, she's desperate to get a job, and had her hopes pinned on this one - but when they pulled out the "no mileage" during the interview she was rightly shocked.

globalds

bylromarha wrote: »

It's why she's doing all the sums to see if it's worth it. Love her, she's desperate to get a job, and had her hopes pinned on this one - but when they pulled out the "no mileage" during the interview she was rightly shocked.

If I get the jist of some of the sad stories I have read ..

The solution ..for the carer, is to use the time allocated to be spent with the person being visited as travel time.

So a one hour time slot for elderly Jack or Jill will be more like twenty minutes ..Poor Jack and Jill ....But you can't blame the carer for not wanting to be mugged over.

elsien

https://www.gov.uk/tax-relief-for-employees/business-mileage-fuel-costs

I don't know how it works in practice, as I've not used it myself.

ohreally

bylromarha wrote: »

but when they pulled out the "no mileage" during the interview she was rightly shocked.

I hope she was shocked enough to tell them to ram it!