Modern cars - clutches

Gloomendoom

My wife's Kia suffered a clutch failure at just over three years old. All sorted under the warranty.

AdrianC

Whether a clutch is hydraulic or cable says nothing about the feel or the travel or the weight. That's entirely down to the ratios of actuation and the springs on the pressure plate.

And, if anybody thinks otherwise, they're more than welcome to get out of their i10 into my series Land Rover, which has a hydraulic clutch that gives your left leg a better workout than an exercise DVD on fast-forward. Don't even ask about the brake pedal. I hate to think what that'd be like without the servo, like most were.

Zandoni

melbury wrote: »

Being a dinosaur, I always sit in traffic with the clutch depressed (unless it is a mega delay), whereas most young people I know seem to put the car in neutral just about every time they have to stop.

Putting the car in neutral when stopped is not only the correct thing to do but also best for the clutch.

Gloomendoom

AdrianC wrote: »

And, if anybody thinks otherwise, they're more than welcome to get out of their i10 into my series Land Rover, which has a hydraulic clutch that gives your left leg a better workout than an exercise DVD on fast-forward. Don't even ask about the brake pedal. I hate to think what that'd be like without the servo, like most were.

Mine has no brake servo and the brakes have a lovely positive feel to them. The clutch isn't cable or hydraulic, it's operated directly via a short cross-shaft which does mean that it is affected by engine movement.

Gloomendoom

Zandoni wrote: »

Putting the car in neutral when stopped is not only the correct thing to do but also best for the clutch.

That's what I was taught by my driving instructor and my dad (who passed his test over 70 years ago.)

AdrianC

Gloomendoom wrote: »

Mine has no brake servo and the brakes have a lovely positive feel to them. The clutch isn't cable or hydraulic, it's operated directly via a short cross-shaft which does mean that it is affected by engine movement.

I must've imagined changing the fluid in the clutch, then...

http://www.lrparts.net/clutch-master-and-clutch-slave-cylinder-for-land-rover-series-3-includes-clutch-hose-pipe-repair-kits-and-caps.html

facade

I had a series II, a IIa and a III, and they all had a hydraulic clutch. Can't speak for the series 1 though.

The brakes worked well enough to lock the bartreads up on a wet road going forwards, those new fangled twin leading shoe brakes on the 108 self servo'd forwards, but did nothing in reverse.

When you drive a Landrover, you soon realise that it is invisible as people pull out about 10 feet from you, when you are bouncing along at 30 on bartreads :eek:

AdrianC

facade wrote: »

I had a series II, a IIa and a III, and they all had a hydraulic clutch. Can't speak for the series 1 though.

The brakes worked well enough to lock the bartreads up on a wet road going forwards, those new fangled twin leading shoe brakes on the 108 self servo'd forwards, but did nothing in reverse.

Mine's a late s3 88", so 11" TLS and servo. Decent modern winter road tyres, though, on Disco steels.

When you drive a Landrover, you soon realise that it is invisible as people pull out about 10 feet from you, when you are bouncing along at 30 on bartreads :eek:

Round these parts, people just assume you're a farmer. Some days, every other vehicle in town is a Defender.

Gloomendoom

AdrianC wrote: »

I must've imagined changing the fluid in the clutch, then...

You certainly must have imagined it if you changed the clutch fluid in mine. There isn't anywhere to put it.

Item 22 in the diagram is the cross-shaft that transfers the motion from the pedal to the clutch operating fork.

bouicca21

When I drove a manual I always put the thing in neutral at traffic lights. But both DDs were taught not to - when we talked to the driving instructor about it he said it was all about showing off clutch control to the examiner.