Faith in the British electorate - RESTORED

Blacklight

stator wrote: »

Two choices and a million lies. It wasn't a real attempt at reform but an attempt at providing some legitiamcy to the current corrupt system.

Spoken like a true authoritarian bigot.

wymondham

Don't forget the nugget that made UKIP tick - whilst those in Government can break/mess up what they like and the next Government can repair it, the difference is immigration. Mistakes on this cannot be repaired and are long lasting......

Mallotum_X

cells wrote: »

Its probably not correct to think all of those voters are against blue and for red.

Also a lot of voters are on the verge of each side and could switch, the centre left centre right voters


I voted blue for my MP and red for my councilors (local reasons) just as an example of people not all being all left or all right.

Opposite way round for me, again local reasons. Red for the MP and blue for the councillors.

robin61

TheBlueHorse wrote: »

because the right thing was done. The country would have been destroyed by Red Ed and his party of morons.

I could not agree more. Especially if they had got into bed with the SNP.

movilogo

UKIP got most votes after Conservative & Labour.

They got more votes than LibDem and SNP combined.

Yet they won only 1 seat. This is not democracy, just the illusion of democracy.

chucknorris

movilogo wrote: »

UKIP got most votes after Conservative & Labour.

They got more votes than LibDem and SNP combined.

Yet they won only 1 seat. This is not democracy, just the illusion of democracy.

PR leads to weak indecisive leadership, that is the traditional argument against it. If you don't agree with FPTP, the time to say so is before the election, rather than afterwards and 'after timing'.

crash123

robin61 wrote: »

I could not agree more. Especially if they had got into bed with the SNP.

This is the reason the Tories won. Also the liberal voters did not like them getting into bed with the Tories so you might as well vote Tory or labour.

CLAPTON

chucknorris wrote: »

PR leads to weak indecisive leadership, that is the traditional argument against it. If you don't agree with FPTP, the time to say so is before the election, rather than afterwards and 'after timing'.

there are several perceived criticisms of PR

-it leads to coalitions
-coalitions can give a lot of power to quite small parties which don't reflect their support
-PR doesn't really give people a 'local' MP as one votes for a party rather than a person
- makes it almost impossible for a local hero to arise e.g. support a local hospital or other local cause.

enthusiasticsaver

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I hate Ukip.

They are a party for people too ignorant to deserve representation and too stupid to know what to do if they got it.

Therefore they don't count.

I do not like UKIP policies either but you cannot just dismiss them as ignorant simply because you do not agree with them.


The same goes for Conservative voters. I voted Blue this time but have voted for all three parties in the past based on their manifestos and candidates etc so am not loyal to any particular party but I am amazed at the bile and venom being dished out on social media to anyone who dared vote Conservative.


It is no wonder the polls were wrong when anyone who dared admit they supported the Conservative manifesto are treated with abuse and vilified.

silverwhistle

Blacklight wrote: »

i.e. sea of overpaid public sector workers desperate to hold onto their six months a year sick pay and unemployed no-lifers desperate to get their £90k benefits restored..

Don't tell me, you read the Mail, and believe everything in it.