Buying house & land clause query

jimpix12

Freecall wrote: »

I have modified your question to respond to the general case rather than specifically one ethnic group.

Hmm.. the point being that travellers are known to flout planning laws more than any other "ethnic group" so I felt it was relevant. By the way they are of the same ethnic group as most people in this country, surely. They are not Romanis. Can of worms opened... :A

G_M

Your options as already stated:

* Buy it and keep it as an investment. If anyone parks a caravan or similar there, you evict as trespassers - fairly straightforward.

* Buy it, sell it on with a covenant. If anyone parks a caravan or similar there, youenforce the covenant. Slow, stressfull, potentially expensive.

* Buy the house but not the land and keep your fingers crossed. If the worst happens, it will be a nightmare

* Find another property.

ps - ignore anything the estate agent says. He just wants to reassure you so the sale proceeds, his client gets the sale, and he gets his commisssion. Remember, he is not your agent, he is the seller's agent.

jimpix12

Thanks a lot for the replies.

One other question instead of opening a new thread, I mentioned that the travellers are in appeal stage for their right to live on the land however it transpires (having read the documents in full) that the appeal was actually rejected as it was 'out of time' i.e. the council received the letter 5 days too late.

I am not sure if this is a delaying tactic, although I doubt it's just oversight on their part somehow. Is this the way that travellers supposed work the system or will they actually be thrown off the land now?

Edit: Having Googled it, it appears councils rarely bother to actually undertake enforcement action. Think I'll walk away then. Thanks all.

Mallotum_X

how much is the field.

Can you not buy it and rent it out. Just for peace of mind and control over it?

G_M

courts and councils have discretion to allow 'out of time' appeals/responses etc, and fairly often excercise this discretion.

As you've said, councils seem reluctant to take enforcement action, and when they do it becomes a political hot potato.

jimpix12

Is it possible to see if the local council are going to evict them, Ie can I speak to the enforcement officers ? Or will they cite "data protekshun" and not divulge anything.

G_M

spunko2010 wrote: »

Is it possible to see if the local council are going to evict them, Ie can I speak to the enforcement officers ? Or will they cite "data protekshun" and not divulge anything.

I doubt they would put anything in writing, but a friendly chat wih the Planners? Who knows what they might say 'off the record'.

POPPYOSCAR

If you cannot buy the land, then run for the hills!!


The council that took action against Dale Farm are in a minority and even now it is not resolved.


The council adjacent have allowed 'illegal' sites to continue.

jimpix12

agreed, I'm just talking figuratively now. There are so many travellers round here it's good to be prepared.

martindow

If you bought this land it could provide some income - renting it as grazing land or for making hay or silage. As has been said the only way of controlling your outlook is owning the land.