Do I need to sign on JSA?

rossiboy1

Hi, i have recently just been given a job for 15 hrs a week, which pays more than the JSA, but have been told by the jobcenter that i still need to sign on though i wont receive any money. Yet at the council office they told me i dont need too to claim for HB,CTB and child tax credits. The job center say irts so i can get free prescriptions and pay NI stamps, Though i read somewhere that you need 20 years or approx to receive full state pension, and one way or other through work or claiming i would have covered at least 30 by now. What should I do? The employer is a council they want me to do the extra hours too 17.5 but without payment.

rogerblack

My first question would be is it in fact legal for the council to employ you for 15 hours, and expect you to do 17.5.

Minimum wage would usually apply.

rossiboy1

Yes thats another issue, but its be implied that I should be other team members as its a job share, not come from the office as such, it leaves a gap, between me and the afternoon person who takes over which causes problems and they were expecting me to do those hours, and were pretty taken back that I left on time i dont think they were told.
I think its to do with NI contributions tax law ect that they dont want to pay if I work 16 hrs. But neverless, im doing 15 hours work over 5 days a week and told to sign on fortnightly do 30 hrs off jobsearch. For no money from the JSA (rightly as im working for the money) But for what purpose to sign on in first place, and the council tell me different that I dont need to.

When_the_going_gets_tough

The only purpose to sign on would be to get in contributions for your pension. If you don't need these or think you can catch up later in life then you do not need to sign on. Sorting your hours with your employer is more important and if you are a single parent you can claim watch when you work 16 hours so this could be a priority.

rogerblack

rossiboy1 wrote: »

Though i read somewhere that you need 20 years or approx to receive full state pension, and one way or other through work or claiming i would have covered at least 30 by now.

It is 30 required now.
For people reaching pension age from 2016 and on, this is as much as 35, for those starting working in 2016.

Get a forecast of exactly how many years you have from HMRC.

rossiboy1

rogerblack wrote: »

It is 30 required now.
For people reaching pension age from 2016 and on, this is as much as 35, for those starting working in 2016.

Get a forecast of exactly how many years you have from HMRC.

Im assuming its every year that you have either worked or claimed on sort of out of work benefit such as income support or JSA through the years. Only if you have been for example in another country or self employed cash in hand ect for example would the years not count, So im 2 years short, but have 23 years left to 68 to get em I guess. So i should then ignore the jobcenter drop them and concentrate on getting my HB,Child tax credits ect sorted.

xylophone

For a full new state pension 35 years of contributions will be required.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-national-minimum-wage-rates-announced

https://www.gov.uk/national-insurance-credits/eligibility

duchy

Is this a permanent or temp job ?

If you continue to sign on then you'd qualify for free prescriptions, eye tests etc but more importantly if the job suddenly ends you are already claiming so wouldn't have to wait to open a new claim.

Personally I'd sign on-who knows how the rules for number of NI contributions could change over the next few years

rossiboy1

duchy wrote: »

Is this a permanent or temp job ?

If you continue to sign on then you'd qualify for free prescriptions, eye tests etc but more importantly if the job suddenly ends you are already claiming so wouldn't have to wait to open a new claim.

Personally I'd sign on-who knows how the rules for number of NI contributions could change over the next few years

Its classed as temporary cause the budget for my job gets reviewed once a year in September, and is subject to changes of circumstances which is possible and the job could end within a month or carry on for a further 6 years. Yes I was also worried about how long now it takes to make a new claim.

rossiboy1

rossiboy1 wrote: »

Its classed as temporary cause the budget for my job gets reviewed once a year in September, and is subject to changes of circumstances which is possible and the job could end within a month or carry on for a further 6 years. Yes I was also worried about how long now it takes to make a new claim.

and yes the goalposts seem to move regular when it comes to government decisions, by the if im still alive, there prob wont be any state pension.

rogerblack

rossiboy1 wrote: »

and yes the goalposts seem to move regular when it comes to government decisions, by the if im still alive, there prob wont be any state pension.

There is one simple, rational way to pay the state pension.
10 years, backdated, paid after death.