We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. See the Community Noticeboard for more info. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

quick question

Options
my current employer will be making a number of cuts in a few months time which may include a redundancy for me.....Should I take out income protection or a form of PPI as I have not been told I will be made redundant as of yet?
«1

Comments

  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,602 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    moneydon wrote: »
    my current employer will be making a number of cuts in a few months time which may include a redundancy for me.....Should I take out income protection or a form of PPI as I have not been told I will be made redundant as of yet?

    Too late. Once it is known about impending cut backs, you cant get insured for that event.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • magpiecottage
    magpiecottage Posts: 9,241 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    If you give me £1,200 then if you get made redundant in the next 12 months I will give you £100 a month whilst you are unemployed for a maximum of 12 months.

    In all seriousness, an insurance company will need to cover its running and regulatory costs and make a profit - and with interest rates so low, it could not even get anything significant by putting it on deposit.

    So it would probably need to charge people in your situation as much as it would pay out to be commercially viable.
  • moneydon_2
    moneydon_2 Posts: 53 Forumite
    edited 30 April 2015 at 9:26PM
    so its not worth while getting any type of income protection now?
  • moneydon_2
    moneydon_2 Posts: 53 Forumite
    dunstonh wrote: »
    Too late. Once it is known about impending cut backs, you cant get insured for that event.

    yes?...even if technically nothing has been discussed at present? or nothing has been declared by the management?
  • Insider101
    Insider101 Posts: 1,062 Forumite
    moneydon wrote: »
    so its not worth while getting any type of income protection now?

    I think you've misunderstood your product types. Income protection covers your income if you are unable to work long term due to accident and sickness.

    If you are talking about redundancy cover then policies will not cover any unemployment which is known about or suspected at the time of taking out the policy. They will also generally have a time frame from the date of taking the policy where you can't claim on it for unemployment. The reason is to stop people doing what you are suggesting and taking it out once they know they are at risk of redundancy. They only want to insure people who are average or low risk. If someone claims in the first few months you can expect them to be very vigilant about speaking to your employer and ascertaining when the cut backs were first discussed.
  • Insider101
    Insider101 Posts: 1,062 Forumite
    moneydon wrote: »
    yes?...even if technically nothing has been discussed at present? or nothing has been declared by the management?

    If it hasn't beeen discussed then how do you know they are planning redundancies?
  • moneydon_2
    moneydon_2 Posts: 53 Forumite
    and that was the answer I needed tbh....all this redundancy and Income protection insurance is uncharted territory to me and I suppose I need to be more savvy in the future

    although I do recall my father receiving his monthly income when he was made redundant and that was from his ppi
  • moneydon_2
    moneydon_2 Posts: 53 Forumite
    Insider101 wrote: »
    If it hasn't beeen discussed then how do you know they are planning redundancies?

    not discussed in as much as they have stated the company is downsizing its operation including my dept but not highlighted me or A N Other as a possible casualty.....anyway I have decided not to bother with the income protection at this stage
  • Nasqueron
    Nasqueron Posts: 10,620 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    moneydon wrote: »
    and that was the answer I needed tbh....all this redundancy and Income protection insurance is uncharted territory to me and I suppose I need to be more savvy in the future

    although I do recall my father receiving his monthly income when he was made redundant and that was from his ppi

    PPI is intended to cover (or partially cover) bills following redundancy or ill health (depending on policy) but it has to be in place before any mention of redundancy - soon as the company finds out your employer has discussed it even in part they will reject a claim from you if you took it out after this was mentioned by your firm

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,602 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    although I do recall my father receiving his monthly income when he was made redundant and that was from his ppi

    Redundancy cover is a PPI policy.
    not discussed in as much as they have stated the company is downsizing its operation including my dept but not highlighted me or A N Other as a possible casualty.....anyway I have decided not to bother with the income protection at this stage

    The wording is typically are you aware of any forthcoming redundancies or a company restructure etc. The restructure wording would cover that and prevent it.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.8K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.8K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 598.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.8K Life & Family
  • 257K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.