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Manifest Stupidity III - Tory Toffs and the Terrible Plots

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  • Pete9501
    Pete9501 Posts: 427 Forumite
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    cells wrote: »
    Fiddle the figures

    give the armed forces enough to meet the 2% target, take some of it back by charging defense specific taxes eg maybe busienss rates on war ships hhahha

    We don't actually own all the warships, some are leased.
  • BobQ
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    Generali wrote: »
    In theory you're meant to spend 2% on defence as a minimum to stay in NATO. That's why the SNP declaration that they'll get rid of Trident is meaningless in budget terms as the money has to stay in the defence budget really. You can't spend the money on free milk for cats or equal brains for stupid people.

    I think they have already argued that they would increase conventional spending (given control of it). After all they would need to build something in the bases to employ all the displaced civilians and affected local businesses.:)
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • BobQ
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    Pete9501 wrote: »
    We don't actually own all the warships, some are leased.

    Which are those ?
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  • BobQ
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32327177

    This does not help the Conservative cause.......
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  • Generali
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    BobQ wrote: »
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32327177

    This does not help the Conservative cause.......

    The pertinent part of the story:
    All that said, the IMF forecast is a million miles from being devastating for any party: the difference between a £7bn deficit and £7bn surplus in 2020 is just 0.6% of GDP or national income - which is a rounding error in the context of a deficit that was a humongous 10% of GDP just five years ago.
  • BobQ
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    Generali wrote: »
    The pertinent part of the story:

    Well who said economics was an exact science......:)
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • Generali
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    BobQ wrote: »
    Well who said economics was an exact science......:)

    :)

    A change of GDP of just 0.1% pa would account for the difference.

    If the deficit is £7,000,000,000 at the end of the next Parliament that's a result.
  • michaels
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    Generali wrote: »
    The pertinent part of the story:
    And most economists would agree that both sets of numbers are more likely than not to be wrong, for example compare the obr forecasts from 5 years ago to the current out-turn.
    I think....
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